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[–] [email protected] 166 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (89 children)

Translation: you'll become more conservative when you have children and own a home

Millennials: 😆
Zoomers: 😂
Alpha: 🤣
Whateverthefuckcomesnext: 💀

[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 year ago

own a home

Too bad boomers ruined my best chance at that.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I have a child and own a home, and am a member of the lost generation. Fuck the Republican Party and any conservative who believes their selfish bullshit should outweigh the greater good of others.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Republicans are fascists, not conservatives.

Democrats are the conservative party.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've been fortunate enough to have seen my material conditions improve as I've entered my mid-thirties which has let me start a family and buy a home. I've also watched my incredibly talented and hard working friends/acquaintances/neighbours be ground into dust under the cruel rule of capitalism. I got lucky, they didn't, this has radicalized me far more than any naive idealism ever could.

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[–] [email protected] 85 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have heard this my entire life and now that I recently have kids and a home, I find it to be an insane take. If anything, the greater my knowledge of the world becomes the MORE liberal I am. I'm significantly more aware of rigged systems and injustice as I age.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Reality has a liberal bias.

[–] [email protected] 73 points 1 year ago (3 children)

In order to be conservative you have to be afraid, irrationally. Afraid your guns will be taken, afraid the gays are going to out-breed you (not even kidding, they really "think" that), afraid what you want won't be what everyone does, afraid other people are smarter or more capable, afraid that when you die you won't get magicked somewhere to live forever. Basically afraid of everything whether it makes any sense or not. And afraid someone else will find out how afraid you are all the time.

They're pathetic and not fit to walk a dog much less run anything.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A lot of that specific brand of conservatism is very American. While everywhere has conservatives, and I totally agree they're build on a foundation of personal fear, they have very different presentations in different places!

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My old man has told me this my whole life and I always tell him no, because I'm not a cunt. 42yo so far and still going strong.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I was actually more right wing as a kid. Now that I've learned some things about the world that's when I became a left leaning liberal.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Went from voting far right in 2017 (fucking welfare abusers ) to far left in 2022 (fuckibg corporations costing three times more than welfare) kek

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

liberal

Don’t stop there… commit fully to the dark side homer-cult

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Boomers got more conservative as they grew older because they've been eating shovels of propaganda since reagan and never learned how to fact check like younger generations

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

Don’t forget the leaded gas fumes and rampant racism!

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I remember a high school friend's father saying something to me like, "You'll get more conservative when you start paying taxes." This was around 1993-1994 or so.

I'm 45 now, modestly wealthy, and pay plenty of taxes. I can't envision ever voting for a Republican for any public office ever again...and the current circus of bullshit around TFG just seals that deal for me.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago (5 children)

The older I get, the more liberal I get.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Just turned 38 and from an ultra conservative household, every since I broke the indoctrination I've just gotten more and more liberal

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago

The older I get the more injustice I see the angrier I get. The only difference between now and my twenties is I know who to direct my rage at and it burns hotter then ever.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago (1 children)

GenXer. I've gotten more progressive. I used to consider myself a moderate dem back in the 90s. On the other hand, the 90s moderate dem is now considered a commie woke libtard, so shrug? Shocking that I want justice for all, fair wages, end systemic racism, end homophobia, etc. So librul! I'm destroying Western society! Oh wait, I'm a POC immigrant woman, course I'm destroying America!

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

Been forever since I've got to bust this one out

But also, obligatory Plane Picture

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I hate it when boomers, specifically, say this. My grandfather, who is Silent Generation, will tell you that he’s gotten more liberal as he’s gotten older. Whenever I hear a boomer say this, it’s used as a shaming, like “you don’t understand now but you will when you’re older”. Turns out I haven’t gotten more conservative. I listened to minority populations and then came out and it’s turned me more leftist.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Boomers, in general, are a generation of spoiled children that, for the most part, have never seen the true hardships of any other generation. "Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times." Boomers are the weak men that created hard times for the following generations, yet they keep living and consuming as if our world wasn't dying. "Fuck you, got mine" I guess.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago

I've gained empathy as I've gotten older. The literal opposite of conservatives

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Young people tend to be more persuadable before 30, and tend to bake in their political views around that age. So big events in one's 20's tend to lead to lasting partisan affiliations for life after that.

FDR's presidency won over a lot of people to the Democrats in the 30's and 40's. Eisenhower's presidency shifted people over to Republicans in the 50's. Nixon pushed people away from Republicans. But by the 70's Democrats were losing a lot of voters, and then Reagan won a bunch of people over to the GOP. Then 9/11 won people over to Republicans, while the Iraq war pushed them away.

But each of these things had an outsized effect on those under 30. So Boomers who remember getting fed up with Democrats in the 70s and crossing over for Reagan (and then voting Republican in every election since) just thought it was the effect of age, rather than the effect of that particular political moment in 1980.

And even though this data and the analysis is mainly for Americans, it's probably reflective of how people shape their own political beliefs everywhere.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (9 children)

That might have been true decades ago, but now people have:

  • Greater access to knowledge, and are forced to think more critically about what they consume.
  • More extreme views, which picks off the weak.
  • Most importantly, older people had stuff. They owned houses, had stable, life-long careers, and had settled down before they hit their thirties.

People in their mid to late thirties nowadays might have a fancier job title, but many of them are still struggling like they were before. It's hard to be protectionist when you have nothing but your life to protect...

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago

Eat the rich at any age

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The older phrase used to be "You become more right wing when you get older", whereas it's quite likely it was missing the specific cause, which was "You become more right wing when you stop learning". [Edit] Typo

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (20 children)

My afternoons at 18: sips tea reading Noam Chomsky’s Failed State

My afternoons at 30: sips vodka reading Unabomber’s Manifesto

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (5 children)

social democrat me in my early 20s sicko-hair

communist me in my early 40s sicko-power

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

Subtext here is that white boomers became more conservative because the civil rights movement made them miss Jim Crow

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

41, stable finances, kid, decent job, and still BETTER DEAD THAN RED!

And just to be 100% clear, since I know that phrase meant something completely different 50 years ago, Republicans can get ass-fucked with a spoon

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You become conservative when you lose ability to adapt and learn, thereby yearning for the days when you were you were younger and, as you mostly falsely remember, "times were simpler", which is a delusion caused by the different lifestyle and world perception you used to have. Now you're just older and scared because you forgot to keep up with the times.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

51, still not a conservative

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

The older I get, the more socialist I become.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's only if your wealth increases with age. If you had nothing in your 20s and still have nothing in your 30s and 40s, you'd stay mad

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Again, this is not a boomer issue. I was told the same thing by Silents. I've only moved left-er.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

"people get more selfish and small minded as they age, that's just a fact!"

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My friends who have kids now did become more conservative. But most of them are very religious and grew up going to church every Sunday. So... I think they might have had a certain influence.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

After I had kids I found Satanism and became a communist. I have no idea what your friends are doing but they're doing it wrong.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People become more conservative once they actually accumulate wealth that they can use, and don't want policies passed that will reduce that wealth.

Millennials and younger generations have not the opportunity to generate the same amount of wealth by their 30's or even their 40's as Boomers had.

Therefore leftism and liberalism will be more predominant in these younger generations.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

First there would need to be something worth conserving.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm still trying to get my own studio apartment

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have you considered cutting out the avocado toast or inheriting a shit ton of money? It's really not that hard.

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