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Mastodon has been around since 2016 and has 804k MAU.

The platform has 57 third party apps.

The platform is decentralized and has community ran servers.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

We've had this exact conversation in this community two months ago already, in case you want to back read the comments from back then. Nothing significant has changed

To paraphrase my opinion from back then:

  • Easier onboarding, and a familiar, easier UX
  • customizable feeds you can subscribe to + starterpacks instantly give you full timelines and people to follow (and followers, if you're in many starter packs)
  • better discoverability, and therefore higher engagement
  • stacking moderation and excellent security features (e.g. detachable quote boosts, "the nuclear block")
  • many users who tried Mastodon first had bad experiences with "HOA"-like behavior and over-enthusiastic mods
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Home Owners Association a group or people that "polices" neighbors and has a hisyory of doing shady things. But he's referring to the actitude of "coming outta nowhere to tell you what to do" they have in common.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Personally, I'm excited there's a decentralized option that's super popular. Yes, relatively very few run their own PDS, but if the main bsky instance becomes a problem for anyone, people can easily migrate.

It's not just data ownership either; The AT protocol supports community-built algorithms, relays, and app views.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago

The whole thing's just a scam to off-load data storage costs to super-users. It's sad that people are excited about it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I've got an idea as to why.

I went to mastodon.social and see a Linux meme, some heavy political commentary, and a bunch of posts about mastodon being better than Twitter.

I then went to bluesky.app and see some political riffing, cute animals, a comic, some jokes, a company, and even Don Lemon.

The average person checking them both out for the first time, mastodon is nerd shit and Bluesky is normal shit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

I've tried to stick with mastodon for a while and after using it for months, your description of checking it out is STILL what my feeds look like. That's all there seems to be on Mastodon.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Every platform and app I've seen does a piss poor job of explaining what federation is and how to sign up. "Wtf is mastodon.social?, Why is this one in German?, Why can't I login after signing up?" New users just get confused and give up.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I never post, but I do follow a couple of channels on bluesky and mastodon. Bluesky always just works. Mastodon breaks all the freaking time.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Idk the webpage doesn't load, or i get some kind of weird error, or it seems to load but the persons profile shows they have no posts. Refreshing after a minute usually fixes it. But bluesky always loads faster in FF mobile and it seems much more reliable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

because bsky actually listened to their users and implemented features they asked for unlike mastodon who attacked migrators during the first twitter migration.

bsky also had a bunch of marginalised people - including trans people - as early adopters that helped shape their views on moderation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

install mastodon

Pick an instance

Hit up all

giant penis

That's why. That's the reason.

but you could review the instance beforehand...

Is Jimbo Normalman going to review the instance beforehand? Lmao.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Bluesky allows me to use my domain as my identity and make my own moderation decisions without having to run my own instance.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I was really impressed by this feature when I signed up recently! It baffles me a little bit to see newspapers and things not taking advantage of it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Theverge and washingtompost are

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

it's been better marketed, and people struggle with the concept of federation and picking a server. and I guess the invite-only, artificial exclusivity strat has actually paid off for them initially, unlike for Google+.

also, a matter of culture. I've seen many newcomers complain about how some long time users act as HOA, reminding everyone to act according to the long-standing rules. many people of colour have experience many forms of racist behaviour, too, which has driven some communities away.

oh, and the federation/defederation business sometimes gets way too messy, which [cynic mode on] makes it difficult for people who want their Personal Brand™ to gain as many followers as possible over the entire network.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Language filter in bluesky is much better than Mastodon as well

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Mastodon relies on users setting the language their post is in manually, so if someone posts in two languages and forgets to switch between them, they don't get filtered out. I know there are some other pieces of software that switch it automatically, I'm fairly sure Calckey automatically recognized the language you were writing in.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I already toggle the Mastodon settings to ensure that I got the feeds to the language I want (I want English only) and I still got feeds on different languages such as German and French

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

again, if the person who is making the post doesn't change the setting, it won't get filtered. if they type a message in German but the post's language option is set to English (which I think is the default on some major instances), it won't get filtered out.

you can usually check what their post's setting is by starting writing a reply to them, as the language option of your post will switch to the one they post in.