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[–] [email protected] 16 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

So, then, let’s do the Americas next…

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 hours ago

Hey I'd take my white ass back to Europe if given the chance; Free Healthcare, no Trump, actual Labor Laws that let me afford to eat...

[–] [email protected] 15 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

According to jewish lore, aren't the Israelites originally from Egypt, and immigranted as refugees to what is now Palestine and Israel?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (4 children)

no but your curiosity is noble :) at the very basic, the jewish people emerged from the caananite population and egypt was a later thing i wish i could provide you resources to set you on the right track but i don’t see myself as smart enough and hope others can help out

[–] [email protected] 8 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

As far as I know, Egypt was just a story from the Bible. There is no archaeological evidence of a Jewish population of size in Egypt.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 38 minutes ago* (last edited 37 minutes ago)

And a badass one. A small group just peacefully walking/surviving, crushing the Military Superpower of its time with the help of God. Deus Ex Machina.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 14 hours ago

There are two main positions on the historicity of the Exodus in modern scholarship.[1] The majority position is that the biblical Exodus narrative has some historical basis, although there is little of historical fact in it.[e][5][11] The other position, often associated with the school of Biblical minimalism,[25][26] is that the biblical exodus traditions are the invention of the exilic and post-exilic Jewish community, with little to no historical basis.[27] Wikipedia

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

I think a lot of groups would have similar problems if they kept track of their genealogy over 3,000 years. Maybe where people you were related to 150 generations ago lived should not dictate global policy.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

I live next to Germany, who conquered my country not even a handful of generations ago.

Nobody blames the current Germans.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Exactly, this is why decolonization is a crazy solution.

Any solution needs to focus on where people are today. Focus on getting what they need.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

with an important asterisk for reparations etc

i assume that’s what you meant by focus on getting what they need

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Exactly. If you don't have a home, make sure they get one. If they don't have a job, get them connected to one. Make sure the children are going to school and that they get the healthcare and quality food they need.

Universal basic needs stuff.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Guy justifying White Colonialism with some fable about his race having a right to the land.

Every single colonialist movement that steals land fmro the natives and mass murders them has bullshit like this, all the way back to when the English stole the land from the natives and started calling themselves Americans.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 21 hours ago

Goes far further back than that. The Persian invasion of Turkey and the subsequent Greek invasion of Persia and Egypt comes to mind.

Roman conquests of the Mediterranean. The islamic conquest of North Africa, the Balkans and India.

Colonialism is not a new concept, it's conquest them staying to impose your culture on the locals and exploiting the local resources.

Russia's invasion of Ukraine also has colonialist objectives.

[–] [email protected] 115 points 1 day ago (38 children)

It makes perfect sense, if you don't think of Muslims as people.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago

I don't see why they need to not have Muslims there though. Ok, so this is where you wanna be, all good, but if someone else wants to be there too you kinda need to let them..I think that's where the problem is, it's not Israel, it's that Israel isn't sharing.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

there are claims that the Arabs there were brought in from Egypt to work in the region in the 20th century, or something. In other words, they claim that Palestinians are actually Egyptian and from other neighboring states, and have only been living there for a century or so.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 15 hours ago

“i’m so sorry sir but your family has only lived in this household for checks notes 100 years and three generations. yeah so you are basically immigrants sorry, you understand why i have to bulldoze everything you own.”

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