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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Buy dongles and splitter dongles.

[–] Michal 1 points 55 minutes ago

And carry them with you everywhere

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[–] [email protected] 109 points 4 hours ago (84 children)

Fuck firewire. Glad it's dead. USB C is the best thing to happen to peripherals since the mouse.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 4 hours ago (11 children)

USB C is the best thing to happen to peripherals since the mouse.

I would agree with you if there were a simple way to tell what the USB-C cable I have in my hand can be used for without knowing beforehand. Otherwise, for example, I don't know whether the USB-C cable will charge my device or not. There should have been a simple way to label them for usage that was baked into the standard. As it is, the concept is terrific, but the execution can be extremely frustrating.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Hey that's a fair point. Funny how often good ideas are kneecapped by crap executions.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I’m pretty sure the phrase “kneecapped by crap executions” is in the USB working groups’s charter. It’s like one of their core guiding principles.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

If anyone disagrees with this, the original USB spec was for a reversible connector and the only reason we didn't get to have that the whole time was because they wanted to increase profit margins.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

USB has always been reversible. In fact you have to reverse it at least 3 times before it'll FUCKING PLUG IN.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 hours ago (5 children)

Burn all the USBC cables with fire except PD. The top PD cable does everything the lower cable does.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Do not all USB C cables have the capability to do Power Delivery? I thought it was up to the port you plugged it in to support it?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Nope. My daughter is notorious for mixing up cables when they come out of the brick. Some charge her tablet, some are for data transfer, some charge other devices but not her tablet. It's super confusing. I had to start labeling them for her.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

we need 7 firewire ports and micro dvi ports with 1 mini usb

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

To be fair, USB-C, especially with Thunderbolt, is much more universal. There are adapters for pretty much every "legacy" port out there so if you really need FireWire you can have it, but it's clear why FireWire isn't built into the laptop itself anymore.

The top MacBook Pro is also the 2016+ pre Apple Silicon chassis (that was also used with M chips, but sort of as a leftover), while the newer MacBook Pro chassis at least brought back HDMI and an SD card reader (and MagSafe as a dedicated charging port, although USB-C still works fine for that).

Considering modern "docking" solutions only need a single USB-C/Thunderbolt cable for everything, these additional ports only matter when on the go. HDMI comes in handy for presentations for example.

I'd love to see at least a single USB-A port on the MacBook Pro, but that's likely never coming back. USB-C to A adapters exist though, so it's not a huge deal. Ethernet can be handy as well, but most use cases for that are docked anyway.

I like the Framework concept the most, also "only" 4 ports (on the 13" at least, plus a built-in combo jack), but using adapter cards you can configure it to whatever you need at that point in time and the cards slide into the chassis instead of sticking out like dongles would. I usually go for one USB-C/Thunderbolt on either side (so charging works on either side), a single USB-A and video out in the form of DisplayPort or HDMI. Sometimes I swap the video out (that also works via USB-C obviously) for Ethernet, even though the Ethernet card sticks out. For a (retro) LAN party, I used 1 USB-C, USB-A (with a 4-port hub for wired peripherals), DisplayPort and Ethernet.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I use an in-house tool to connect to equipment over Ethernet for the company my company contracts for. Built in Ethernet is so good for it and getting very hard to find. When it was time for a new laptop my boss was able to find a decent one with built in Ethernet. I even offered to pay the difference in price.

I used two USB dongles in the past and it seems like they worked when they wanted to. It's most likely a software issue because the in-house tool is garbage.

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