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[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Democrats should go all in. Add an amendment for genital inspectors to access the bathroom.

"Ah Mr Cruz. Little below average, but it is technically a penis. Carry on."

Or one of those airport scanners that can see under your clothes.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

Just hire super buff FTM staff assistants. Too bad some medical condition requires them to go to thd bathroom a lot.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

Backscatter scanners

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

This is the point where my mom grabs us both by the ear, and drags us to the front of the bathrooms, rips the signs off, replaces them with asterisks and goes "THERE, NOW BE QUIET!" and goes back to Oprah.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I wonder what the consequences of just pissing on the floor would be. Vandalism? Censure?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Did the people that smeared human feces on the walls of the capitol building on Jan. 6 face any charges?

That would seem to set precedent.

Edit: I wouldn't be at all surprised to find out that despite DNA evidence, that they didn't face any charges.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

Most of the people charged with anything over Jan 6 were charged with obstructing an official proceeding or similar. Not that it matters, Trump will pardon them just as soon as he's done permanently quashing any legal proceedings against him forever.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

That feeling when you change the law to force your crush to use the same toilet as yourself

[–] [email protected] 78 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Okay, I hope Democrats legit physically block men from going in the bathroom while she's in the men's bathroom.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

They need to just hire a bunch of trans men for their staff. Hundreds of men using the women's bathroom on the orders of Johnson would be fun.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Fortunately for her there are gender neutral bathrooms available so she won't have to

Edit: I am a trans woman and would never be willing to step into a men's room. Leave it to Lemmy to interpret my original comment in such a backwards bad faith interpretation.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

And there were plenty of "colored only" water fountains.

The truth is that, here in the real world, gender-neutral bathrooms are always few and far between. And even when they can be found, they're usually single stall. And people use them for all sorts of purposes. Sometimes they're used as lactation rooms when proper facilities aren't available. Sometimes they're randomly locked. Or you might just get caught behind some asshole who decides to play on the phone for an hour. In a normal restroom, one person hogging the pot doesn't interrupt things. If there's only one stall, it does.

Separate but equal is never equal. It is never equal, because the majority never bothers to make the alternative ghetto they reserved for the minority truly equal in kind, quality, and character to that which the majority uses.

There is, however, a simple solution. Trans people can simply use the restroom that they feel the most comfortable in. If someone simply doesn't feel safe with the possibility of sharing a bathroom with a trans person, we have an option for them. They can use the single stall restrooms we've positioned throughout the building.

And really, this approach just makes more sense. The people who don't want to share bathrooms tend to tilt older and with more wealth and influence behind them. Thus, the bigots have a lot more political capital than trans people do. As such, if we require bigots to use the separate but equal restroom, the bigots actually have the better shot of insuring the restroom that corresponds to their needs is properly funded.

And finally, is this not the approach with anyone who has bigotries around bathrooms? There are still some racists out there who don't like sharing restrooms with people of color. And they cite the exact same vague irrational safety fears as bigots do. And we should tell both of them that if you have a problem using the common shared space, that you can go ahead and use the single-user restroom.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

Yeesh, I'm a trans woman and I would never want to step foot into a men's room, which is why I remarked that despite this bullshit she won't have to step into one, so good for her. I was not endorsing this horrible bigoted move.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Tell me you missed the point without telling me you missed the point

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Uh, no, I'm a trans woman and I would never be willing to step foot into a men's room so I'm glad that despite this bigoted move she won't either.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

She might not have to but there are plenty of trans staffers in the capitol who may not have access to a gender neutral restroom like she will have in her office.

What happens to them? This effects everyone in the building?

Me? I’d use the women’s room and sue them under anti-discrimination laws if they said boo about it. What we need is a legislator willing to do this. Not someone who just goes along to get along.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

My understanding is that there are gender neutral bathrooms throughout the capital, on top of the private bathrooms each rep has in their offices. This is still a disgrace.

Sarah McBride is a very lukewarm centrist, she is not going to stand up for herself or anyone else unfortunately. She's a Zionist, so not exactly progressive.

I also would use the women's room in defiance of these rules. But I expect her to stick to the neutral ones and toe the line because that is who she is. It's easy to expect all trans women to be woke leftists/socialists/anarchists or even communists. But we are just a bunch of people with a medical condition in common.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Everyone in the house with morals rises to follow her to the bathroom and stands guard. Epic.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 week ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago

Nah, she gets to go join the legislators having their private conversations in the mens' room.

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[–] [email protected] 78 points 1 week ago (3 children)

“I’m here to fight for Delawareans and to bring down costs facing families,” McBride said. “Like all members, I will follow the rules as outlined by Speaker Johnson even if I disagree with them. This effort to distract from the real issues facing this country hasn’t distracted me over the last several days, as I’ve remained hard at work preparing to represent the greatest state in the union come January.”

I could never fathom being this graceful against people literally trying to deny me the right to exist

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

She's going to get harassed and possibly assaulted in the men's room. I guarantee it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

She'll probably use a private bathroom in a Democrat office next to the chambers.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

I’m glad to hear she has allies.

Though they better not let the republicans know which ones and allow them access because they’ll vandalize it.

They’re like bullies from fucking high school.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I worry if it's the best strategy. She decided to take the high road, but members of vilified minority groups don't really have that as an option.

McBride ran as a very milquetoast centrist Democrat. She ran on helping Delwareans with real kitchen-table issues, she didn't run on her identity at all. Her whole message is, "look, trans people are just ordinary people. I'm running as an ordinary person. I promise not to make a big stink about being trans. I just want to help my neighbors." And of course, like any centrist Democrat, she immediately stated she was willing to work across the aisle. She's centrist Democrat to the core, fetishistic bipartisanship and all.

But here is the problem. Republicans DO NOT WANT and WILL NOT LET a trans person simply be "ordinary." They want every trans person to have to be a radical bomb thrower. They portray trans people as blue-haired bomb-throwing radicals, and having a very assimilationist trans person just acting like a normal person isn't something they can tolerate. They NEED her to be a radical. And they are going to force her, one way or another, to speak up for trans rights.

It starts with bathrooms, but it doesn't end there. The House has a gendered dress code. Are they going to make her wear a men's suit? Are they going to require that all colleagues refer to her as he/him? Are they going to deadname her on the House floor? What level of humiliation is she willing to put up with before she finally starts speaking up for herself?

Even if she is willing to personally put up with any level of humiliation, is she willing to sacrifice her own constituents for the sake of respectability politics? She is willing to abide by the House Speaker's ruling, but would she herself be willing to vote for a federal law that prohibits trans people from using restrooms on all federal property? How about any of the hundred other anti-trans laws Republicans would want to pass?

Eventually, if she wants to stick with this, "they go low, we go high" approach, she will end up having to vote for overtly Fascist policies. They will deliberately put her in situations where she has to vote to materially harm herself and other trans people. And at that point, it becomes much harder to actually stand up for your principles.

What argument could she make to oppose a federal nationwide bathroom ban? She already agreed to abide by the principle that trans women should use men's restrooms. If she tries to object now, she will seem like a hypocrite.

This is ultimately the problem that assimilationists always run into. You can try to be one of the good ones. You can tell everyone that your minority status simply shouldn't be an issue at all. The problem is that, however much you try, bullies MAKE your minority status an issue. McBride tried to simply take the high road and ignore her trans status entirely, but ultimately that's unlikely to work. Republicans have already taken advantage of her timidity to humiliate her. And they won't stop until she is forced one way or another to vocally stand up for trans rights. And unless she is willing to actively vote for her own community's destruction, at some point, her hand will be forced.

It's a trap, and she's seemed to have walked right into it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

What is her other option? Respond in a militant fashion, fight them tooth and nail over where she drops her logs? This was the best possible response, in my opinion. She rises above them, doesn’t take the bait and comes off making them look petty and small while she almost laughs off how pathetic they are.

I don’t think it denies her the ability to fight further aggressions down the road. It seems pretty simple to say “it’s one thing to come at me, I can bear your attacks but when it affects my constituents, I have to draw a line” you know?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I think that user Fedizen got it right a thread below this one in my feed.

If she were to invite 30 trans men to the capitol for a week, this rule would be recinded.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'm having a hard time squaring Delaware with "Greatest State in the Union." They may have been first state, by a matter of minutes, but that is where their uniqueness kinda ends, prior to electing this gal.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

See? Wayne and Garth got it ~~years~~ decades ago.

I'm ashamed to admit that I forgot this scene even existed. Lol

Edit: Obligatory: Wayne's World! Wayne's World! Party Time! Excellent!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

Hahaha it’s the only lasting image of Delaware in my brain

[–] kn0wmad1c 68 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Damn, Republicans are obsessed with genitals.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's very strange. I've never once looked at a woman and thought "i wonder what her genitals look like." Even if I'm imagining a woman naked. But it's all those creeps can think about.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago

That's quite easy to explain; they are mostly sexually frustrated after all.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 week ago (1 children)

MAGA told us creepy men and male rapists wanted to use the law to be able to use the same bathrooms as women

The maga people were the creeps and rapists and they got their wish

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 week ago (1 children)

all they have to do is invite like 30 trans men to the capital for a week and you will see a quick repeal of this policy.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

"Just send in the trans men" is not a fucking solution. It suggests that we can just walk into the ladies room and go "oh, but I have a vagina, I'm supposed to be here!" and they'll be like "ah damn, I guess you can go ahead". Transmascs have been beaten, arrested, and even murdered trying to use the women's room. We aren't your human shields, we're in just as much danger

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

"we aren't your human shields"

I'm sorry but who is being shielded in this situation?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

People expect us to march in and bear the brunt of transphobia to defend the rights of trans women

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Look at him with his rosy cheeks and old grandma's glasses.

I swear this guy's closeted and just projecting. Like many conservative Christians.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Paul Dano would be perfect to play him in a movie.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

I feel like some sort of extended lore needs to be created with this. I like it.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Bro has a burner, loves TS porn. Can't have Jr. seeing his search history.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Given how much trans porn keeps finding its way on conservative computers (and there’s nothing wrong with that if you aren’t a bigot) i seriously worry she’s going to be sexually assaulted in there. I trust her to not let it stop her, I’m sure she knew it was a likely possibility, but yeah she’s not safe in there

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