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“The truth is that from a legal perspective, these resolutions are not complicated,” Sanders said during a press conference Tuesday, alongside Sens. Chris Van Hollen, D-Md.; Peter Welch, D-Vt.; and Jeff Merkley, D-Ore. “They are cut and dry. The United States government is currently in violation of the law, and every member of the Senate who believes in the rule of law should vote for these resolutions.”

Despite aid groups reporting that Israel has continued to block humanitarian aid into Gaza, the White House overlooked the blown deadline last week, saying that it will continue to provide weapons to Israel. The decision stands in direct violation of existing U.S. law preventing the government from sending weapons to countries that block U.S.-backed humanitarian assistance.

With the Biden administration unwilling to act and legislation targeting pro-Palestinian nonprofits still advancing, pro-Palestinian advocates and their allies in Congress argue that passing the joint resolutions is likely the last real opportunity for Democrats to address the crisis in Gaza before Republicans take control in January.

Despite Democrats’ unwillingness to vote for conditioning military aid to Israel in the past, Araabi hopes that at least some of the lame-duck senators who won’t be returning in January will take this opportunity to cement an anti-genocide record.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 13 hours ago

Their answers depend entirely on how much Lockheed Martin pays them.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Do you want the short answer or the long answer?

Well just to prevent me from having to come back to answer

Short Answer: No

Long Answer: Lol, no

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago

Their corporate paymasters in the arms industry say no.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

Spoiler alert: no.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 days ago (14 children)

Any Democrat that sits on this, instead of voting in line with Sanders and other voices of conscience, is supporting Trump at this point.

The party line that Trump will be worse for Palestine will no longer work. And I will be writing the Democrat from my state to let them know as much.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Biden is lobbying against Sanders, even now. The guy has essentially King's powers and he's using them be a doddering, feckless war criminal.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, I saw that this morning. Biden has gone full mask off at this point. Old and nothing to lose but his pride.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I wouldn't be surprised if Biden WANTED Trump to win

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

There's been a lot of speculation claiming exactly that. I think it's a stretch.

But, if your actions are causing people to make that type of speculation, a normal person would at least take some time for self reflection.

Whether true or not, it's a bad look.

Whatever legacy Biden hoped to leave is irrevocably trashed IMHO.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago

If the Duopoly works together to stay in power it's a pretty effective way of preventing any real opposition from forming.

Most people still think it's red vs blue, when for the last 50 years in the US it's been rich vs poor.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's only because this Senate session is under Democratic control that this is being voted on in the first place. After the new year, and new session, it will be under Republican control, and something like this will never make it to the floor. So yeah, penalize those that will allow a vote versus those that won't. Same thought process that gives you President Trump.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Writing my senator isn't penalizing anyone. Nice straw man though.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You are penalizing yourself, so have at it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well since I'm penalizing myself by talking to you, since you don't seem to have any intellectual honesty, I guess I will just block you.

Thanks for pointing it out.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 day ago

So now you're a coward

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

This would also have to pass the House, which it would not. I agree with Bernie's statement and respect his choice to put the resolution forth on principle. I do not respect the article author or commentors who are either ignorant of basic U.S. civics, or choosing to be deliberately deceptive in order to place blame solely on Democrats.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago
[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

Democrats: “should we stop enabling genocide, now that we have absolutely no reason not to?

Gee!

Hmmmm

I dunno maybe?! :D probably not tho lol”

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Probably not. US international relations is heavily driven by an amoral power calculus.

Israel is a major foil to Iran. Iran is an ally of Russia and China and a threat to US interests in the region. Barring an extreme amount of pressure from constituents, which has not reached that threshold as far as I can tell, most US politicians will tolerate almost any human rights abuse from Israel.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago

Israel is a close ally to Russia too, up until very recently. Netenyahus campaign was based more on his friendship with Putin than with Trump or Biden.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This is superficial. Neither Russia nor China are particularly antagonistic to Israel or the Gulf states, even if they see the US as a foe in their own region. Russia for example is very careful about balancing its relations with the Gulf, Israel and Iran. China, views Iran as a potential foothold to the region, but China actually benefits from the US presence, it is far more energy import dependent than the US and has no desire to fuel instability by helping Iran pursue offensive goals.

The actual reason that Iran and the USA are enemies has to do with the US' sectarian alignment with Sunni powers and Jewish nationalism, and more complicated reasons relating to politicial and religious struggles in the entire region that Iran happens to be one side of (i.e anti-monarchism, clericism, etc). And an institutional (and not necessarily rational) hatred of Iran in the US top brass due to its role in helping Iraqis and Lebanese fight American soldiers.

You cannot talk about this issue in terms of "Russia-China-Iran" balancing without mentioning the deeper and much more relevant issues that make US-Israel relationship exceptional on a globsl level: post-Holocaust philosemetism, anti-Islamism, anti-Arabism and (very underreported) Christian piety that actually motivates US-Israel policy. And the Israel lobby, which is so deeply engrained that Israel is treated more or less like the 51st state.

Politics goes far beyond amoral power calculus. You could have justified a ceasefire and even an embargo on Israeli arm transfers in accordance to amoral power calculus, but for Biden, Blinken and the rest, this is a moral question relating to a transcendent moral and religious cause, steeped in centuries of historical memory.

I have zero doubt that Joe Biden believes that by helping murderous racist Netanyahu slaughter and expel the people of Gaza, he has placed himself in the company of Cyrus the Great and other deliverers of Jews rather than Idi Amin and Radovan Karadzic. The GOP puts such things in explicitly religious terms and thus appear less rational or calculating. But it's not even that well-hidden in the case of Biden and Blinken given what we know of their careers and lives.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

That's a great analysis. Do you have any books or articles to share on the subject?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

It's more like choosing to stand with Israel against Iran(ian proxies). The same reason they stood with Saudi-Arabia killing so, so many children in Yemen.

These top dog politicians don't care for religious or moral matters, that's just for show

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (21 children)

If the logic is "selling these is causing war crimes" they'd have to defined the entire US military. The US regularly breaks the same laws.

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