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Donald Trump’s 2024 campaign has reignited fears among undocumented migrants with promises of “mass deportations” and migrant communities are bracing for uncertainty and a new wave of nativism.

His administration plans to target those deemed public safety or national security threats, potentially reinstating workplace raids and using military resources.

Advocates warn that “collateral arrests” could sweep up migrants without criminal records.

Many, like “Dreamers” protected under DACA, fear family separations, while others, such as Carlos in NYC, hope Trump’s economic policies might benefit them.

"A lot of Latinos, those who can vote, did so because they think he [Trump] can improve the economy. That would be very good for us too," said Carlos, an undocumented Mexican who lives in New York City.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I'm honestly terrified as a naturalized citizen that he's going to either try to revoke my citizenship or ignore it altogether :/

[–] [email protected] 2 points 59 minutes ago (1 children)

Birthright citizenship is on the chopping block

[–] [email protected] 2 points 49 minutes ago* (last edited 45 minutes ago) (2 children)

If they're allowed to carry out their plans in full, will there even BE any path to citizenship?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 minutes ago

How willing to work the fields are you? Not? Then you are deported!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 39 minutes ago

I’m doing my part!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 53 minutes ago* (last edited 53 minutes ago) (1 children)

"Why didn't literally everyone tell me that the racist genocidal maniac was a racist genocidal maniac?"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 43 minutes ago

INCLUDING the racist, genocidal maniac?!?1?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 hours ago

I get that TikTok, YT Shorts, and Facenook slowly removes attention span, but how the fuck does it cause Amnesia for everything that happened before 2020?

Trump literally removed holding time limitations and changed the Criminal Only ICE focus of previous administrations so they could put women and children in cages deport children alone to random South American nations citing some ancient treaties.

This already fucking happened. All of it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 26 minutes ago* (last edited 24 minutes ago)

Everyone here who stayed past their visa or crossed the border illegally is a criminal to the Republicans regardless of any attempts at asylum or other legal avenues to stay. (Yes, they have done something illegal, no need to be a pedant)

Especially if they're brown.

If they're white and have some money, they'll be fine.

If they're brown and working for a Republican illegally, they'll just get paid less and worked harder while being threatened with deportation if they complain.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 26 minutes ago

Narrator: "It won't be."

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

Stephen “nazi” Miller wants to create an army from Trump loyal national guard members and go into “blue” states to enforce deportation.

I doubt they’ll check if you’re a criminal or not.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 41 minutes ago (1 children)

Thinking that undocumented (inherently illegals) will be spared to continue providing cheap labour, ignores the impending AI revolution impact. Millions of jobs will be lost. The menial jobs currently being done by undocumented labour, will soon be done by legal citizens who have lost their jobs to AI. The Ministry of DOGE coin apparatus will soon be in place to implement this at national scale. The leopards are going to eat the faces of 99% of us.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 minutes ago* (last edited 16 minutes ago)

This is what I believe. Those that can’t find work or are replaced by AI get to work the fields or they are a drain on society and jailed, camped, deported, or just executed. You might get a chance to serve the military too - maybe even demanded!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

“If you’re here illegally, you better be looking over your shoulder.”

They've also mentioned along the lines of "if you are here illegally, then you've already committed a crime".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 45 minutes ago

The fun part is, it's not actually a crime. That's why they use immigration judges and not criminal ones.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 42 minutes ago

"If you've downloaded a car, then you've already committed a crime."

[–] [email protected] 1 points 54 minutes ago* (last edited 54 minutes ago)

Its only for the federal definition of criminal. That definition is extremely broad on a good day. Bad days are just gonna get broader

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Trump is going on a mission to skim all alleys for those that are eating pets.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

When I was 6, I bit my rabbit in retaliation after he bit me, does that count?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 minutes ago

Did you spit or swallow?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

I sincerely wish the absolute worst on any marginalized group that voted for Trump. You have nothing but my deepest sincere disgust and deserve whatever happens to you.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I sincerely wish the absolute worst on any marginalized group that voted for Trump.

Are white people exempt from that or why did you choose that wording?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I chose that wording because Trump is a massive racist and yet all these minority groups he's openly shit on still voted for him and they can get fucked.

Because yeah Mr. "Build the wall" is totally gonna have your back.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago (3 children)

Oh and everybody fucking clapped. Get over yourself because while you do whatever the fuck this is, real ones are out there building solidarity and dual power. Snap out of your neoliberal yesteryear and into the reality that what matters now is a.) channels/orgs for mutual aid b) Solidarity Economies (aka folks having a foothold in their local economies and c) Encouraging anti-authoritarian parenting methods.

We are in this mess because we want that EZ fix. Just vote against (obtuse, christo-)fascism so you can go back to bed for 4-8 years (while magrinalized folks get to suffer) -- Instead of looking at the big picture.

You know who looked at the big picture and built (astroturfed anyway) grassroots? All these right wing ghouls.

Im not gonna rewrite this for every clown at the top of every thread playing the blame game.

Get involved. Engage prefigurative politics. Identify the root causes and move on to the solutions.

Or keep yelling at scarecrows you imagine. Just dont be surprised if that turns you into someone people dont want to be around.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Since you are so much against voting I have good news for you: You wont have to ever vote again now! There wont be free elections in america again after all

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 minutes ago* (last edited 2 minutes ago)

Ooh ooh i have something for this!

Right so, certainly a topic worth caring about. "So much against voting" is a simplifcation. Kinda gross one, one could even say

https://crimethinc.com/2016/04/29/feature-from-democracy-to-freedom

But you dont have all that time for giving a fuck about the way representive modern neoliberal democracies fall short, so let's leave it at this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7KUhBxpD14

If you spend the next 2 or 4 years building the expectation that their wont be an election, you are doing their work for them

So, whats yr deal? Are you here manufacturing consent on bebalf of fascists, or are you going to build Muatalism style in your physical proximity. Riding the fence doesnt make sense. ✨️

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Solidarity? Really? Where was the solidarity when the choice was an obvious fascist or literally anything else? Zero fuckin sympathy for the people that voted for the man who openly said he was gonna make their lives harder. The man who openly said he's gonna deport as many people as he can. The man who's openly been a steaming pile of shit since his first fuckin presidential run.

They voted to fuck themselves over and I'm supposed to help them? Lay in the bed of shit you made and fuck right the fuck off.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I sincerely hope you're never in a position of authority.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 hours ago (5 children)

Sorry I have no sympathy for those that vote against their self interests.

I'm not gonna feel sorry for the guy that willingly cut off his nose to spite his face.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (13 children)

"A lot of Latinos, those who can vote, did so because they think he [Trump] can improve the economy. That would be very good for us too," said Carlos, an undocumented Mexican who lives in New York City.

So long, Carlos.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (3 children)

As someone posted in another thread, the mass deportations of Mexicans in the late 1920s/early 1930s ended up deporting American born Mexicans as well. So yeah, America deported actual American citizens because they didn't care or couldn't be bothered to check papers or whatever. Who's to say that isn't going to happen this time around?

Also, Trump said Latinos have a "murder gene," so he already thinks they're all criminals of some sort.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Everyone without white skin needs to get a passport and maintain a line of getting it. I.e. if you get fast deported you can have a family member mail it to you in Mexico.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 minutes ago

As a white man, I fucking HATE this but you’re right. God dammit. I voted Harris, but I still really want to fight for those that can’t.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

This happened in operation wetback under the Eisenhower admin. So it happened after wwii as well.

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