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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Manual bug reporting by manual log selection.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And FairEmail doesn't seem to have any bugs. Really. I had issues, but Marcel responded and cleared them within an hour.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Yea he's an absolute treasure. I think even if he'd stop updating fairemail, it would take years for anything else to even come close to it.

The only issue I ever had was not understanding how to activate the pro features on a new device.

He responded literally within minutes with detailed and easy to understand instructions.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

If only there was this option on more software!

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago

I generally feel fine if I can preview the payload and it doesn't contain too identifiable stuff. Even better if you can redact fields. NewPipe has a simple implementation of this where it just opens up your email client with a pre-filled body.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm hostile towards telemetry by default because of how much spyware there is in today's technology. I'll only allow it if it's reasonable ( e.g. a GPS getting your location, system diagnostics for software devs ) and it's consentual.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

GPS is "passive". It's basically (i'm oversimplifying) sitting there listening to the satellites each broadcasting info, then triangulates itself based on the passive receipt of that data.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i think they are referencing map apps vs gps as a technology

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hmm... possible... fuck those though. Just buy a Garmin.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do those have good traffic data? Because some people still need that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, there's a receiver built into the charger.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

Bug reports and error logs. Helps support the development of the software without it feeling like my data is sold for money unnecessarily.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Zero. I don't cotton to my devices phoning home ever.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

So, if an application crashes on your device, you're okay with it never getting fixed because the developer has no idea it's a problem?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

I love how you're implying a bug will never get fixed because I, of all people, am not using telemetry. If it's bugging you so much that's when you open up a ticket on their issue tracker.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

Just tell them.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Honestly? Yeah, that would be an okay tradeoff. If it's not, I'd go file an issue with steps to reproduce it like I'd be expected to anyways.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That's the developer's responsibility to fix their own shit. I ain't no snitch.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I assume some other dumbass will leave telemetry on

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nothing automatic, if it's a serious issue I'll replicate on a controlled environment if they need dumps, but usually a bug report with steps to reproduce is sufficient.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

On KDE Plasma I have "User Feedback" set to "Detailed system information and basic usage statistics"

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

None. If I encounter a bug in something I care about, I'll report it myself.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Almost none. I want all telemetry off by default, and only gets turned on by me when I want it, and with all conditions and content known.

I like the optional error reports where I can choose just the error report to send.

Of course all this only for FOSS apps.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I let FOSS apps collect crash reports and the like. Proprietary stuff though, no chance.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Nothing. Unless it’s for a product I exceptionally like (count=1) I just allow bug reports.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I'm paranoid as shit so nothing

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I'll happily allow telemetry if its an open source piece of software that gives you the option to "preview" what is being sent (and preferably, not automatically, but as a "Here is what we've got, does this look good?" thing). I'll have a look, make sure its nothing confidential, and send it.

Steam does this with their hardware survey, Fedora does it with its crash reporter system (as did Ubuntu when I used it long ago), and actually macOS was usually pretty good about this too from what I remember (though macOS of course isn't open source).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

None. I prefer reporting an issue manually.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Absolutely none right now, but I'm open to change that policy for select software as I get more used to the FOSS ecosystem.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I always turn on KDE telemetry since it doesnt collect any identifiable info.

But honestly, privacy is not the same as anonymity. I would also turn on fedoras proposed telemetry if the draft bill gets approved.