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Union Leader: It’s Time for the Democrats to Wake Up (jacobin.com)
submitted 3 days ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago

I'm just going to say that I one hundred percent agree with this guy with one caveat.

Unions need to also unfuck themselves too with their members who continually vote for Republicans.

Let me tell you I knew a few to many union members who voted down right to work while voting Republicans and then had a shocked Pikachu face when those same Republicans continue to ram right to work in the legislature. Hate to say it but their members aren't the brightest.

Still, I agree this isn't a chicken and the egg dilemma, Democrats need to step up and publicly have the workers back.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Wasn't Biden the first sitting president to join the picket line? Didn't Trump and Elon joke about killing the Unions? Seems it's like the union workers need to wake up. Tired of pointing fingers. The unions have abandoned the democratic party. They grabbed Trump by the hand because he promised victimism.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Um... Union workers voted for Harris. Like seriously look it up before speaking.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Unions went for Biden 56/40 in 2020 https://www.cnn.com/election/2020/exit-polls/president/national-results

Unions went for Harris 55/43 in 2024 https://www.politico.com/news/2024/11/06/harris-democrats-union-harris-votes-00187943

Dems lost ground and Trump picked up a not a small amount. They are voting against their self interests.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

Since the two analyses give different results we can't say who gained ground and who lost it, but either way the fact that most union workers voted for Harris, despite her unpopularity with low-income people. It's simply not possible to blame union workers for the results in this election. I mean the second article you linked is pretty clear on why Harris didn't get the 100% you seem to be expecting.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Democrats try not to blame everyone else but their party challenge go.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Blaming people that don't live in reality should be expected.

These union workers don't have an economic anxiety. They have a racism, sexism, bigotism, vicitmism problem.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

These union workers don't have an economic anxiety

My man I'm sorry but this is the stupidest take I've seen this month. The whole country is anxious about how they'll pay their bills and the Democrats offered nothing to help with that. Trump made (false) promises about the economy and that's how he won.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So these union workers were upset that the sitting president wanted to march with them in their strike? He personally didn't let the forced breaking stop his administration from getting the union's demands?

These Union Workers looked at the union busting Trump and Vance and said "Yep!"

They don't live in reality. If they did they'd realize that through a Harris administration they'd have the upper hand when organizing against unfair labor practices and the corporate foot soliders.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago

He walked with them AFTER forcing a bad contract on all rail workers.

Lets not just look at the last thing he did on unions.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I've worked at two companies with union workers wearing their maga bullshit. Can't wait until they have no union. Dipshits have fuckal for skills.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago (2 children)

That's not the take we need. Need to really spell-out, for fucking idiots, an Us (workers) vs Them ($$$) platform.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Start by telling them they're stupid and that you have all the answers. That should do the trick.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Seemed to work this year

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

This is depressingly funny. The irony is that everyone hates a know-it-all, and finds them insufferable, but they're drawn to the know-nothing who promises the world, and fails to deliver the most basic of promises...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago

It's honestly what they deserve at this point. Honestly misinformation is a spook. Just Google it, if you're wrong it's your fault.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Again, they don't have the capacity to breath and think at the same time and decades of trying to get the damn horse to drink the water I'd prefer they die of thurst at this point.

The leopards will fead, and that will be my silver lining.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Breathe*

Thirst*

Feed*

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Yore correct

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Always great watching Democrats showing naked hated for labor as opposed to their usual poorly veiled hatred.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's not hatred of labor. It's hatred of those who vote against their best interests.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago

"Trump said he's not going to tax my OT and I worked 900 hours OT last year. Fuck the Dems."

"I don't want you to have to work 900 extra hours to live a comfortable life."

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago

No, its too late for them to wake up.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

"It's time for us to hunker down and wait for the peasants to run out of energy, then go back to business as usual."

-DNC leadership

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

says that the Democrats have a messaging problem with working-class voters

Every other comment here is ignoring this word to the point it almost seems intentional. Read it carefully. Low-income union voters who swayed Republican are voting against their self interests, yes. But this was not adequately communicated to them.

This union leader isn’t saying that union voters are blameless. They are saying that union voters were fed destructive information which compounded with existing white supremacist and conservative bias.

Lemmy read the post challenge, impossible.