Blue shift when?
this post was submitted on 07 Nov 2024
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Instead of a red mirage, we got a blue stayathomeandnotvote. Harris got 10-13M votes less than Biden in 2020, and even Trump seems to be getting less votes than the last time (counting still ongoing). I was told there would be a record turnout in this election.
Depressed turnout has always been how Republicans win.
How about this: minorities shifted TOWARDS Trump!
Shifted, or did the minorities who previously voted for Democrats stay home this time?
It's both. Diaper boy did better than ever with black and hispanic voters. Turnout was also lower.
Yep. It's truly been an election that's not missing drama. Two assassination attempts, sitting president dropping out with 4 months left, open fascism, couch fucking, non-white female runner for the first time, all polls absolutely incorrect... Just to get an orange shit heap to fuck over Ukraine, Palestine and our climate. Could Igo back to the boring Obama years, please?
'member when one of the highlights was "these two should settle it with a pokemon battle"?
Again the polls seemed to be OK. I need to have the article ready with the headline "We are a normal polling error away from a landslide victory for either candidate".
People are sexist, who knew? The patriarchy is alive and thriving.
I was I could blame the patriarchy but the numbers are consistent for dem votes going back to 2004. The extra people who voted in 2020 didn't show up again.
Sure is!.. and deciding to change candidate without a democratic primary was part of finding that out.
Gen-Z men also shifted towards Trump.
So progress is unfortunately not linear, but can slip back to darker times. Which is not great.
Edit: Also, though I think lots of Trump voters vote for him because he's unusual. They see him as a vote against the usual. Against establishment candidates, and against the standard social-political contract. So establishment candidates being disconnected from what voters actually want is a big part of it.
I went to bed Tuesday thinking I was going to wake up to much better news lol, I feel mislead
On Halloween I had a friend I thought was fairly Democratic say he was close to voting for Trump and that's when I felt the dread.
My moms' voted for Trump I suspect and they're avoided voting for Republicans for a long time because of homophobia. One of them would ask things like "do you think a woman can be president" and would talk about how great she thought the stock market would do under trump. They just retired, so their well-being is now a lot more dependent on the value of their 401k than before though, so it might just be that rather than broader trends. Otoh, I've also seen her listening to like 30+ minute snakes salesman things on Facebook and be seriously believing of the obvious scam.
Did they give a reason?
They're an insufferable asshole? I'd guess.
It was Halloween, so maybe "insufferable asshole" was their costume.
Guess which country gets to celebrate Halloween every day for the next 4 years!
Brave of you to assume it'll end after four years
That's the thing, he's not a bad guy, and he says he did vote for Harris. His politics are fairly left of center, and his wife is definitely way left of center.
He joked about the insane amount of spam texts he was getting, but no real answer. He did say he ended up voting Harris/Walz.
Hopefully he was also joking about possibly voting for Trump.
Hopefully, but it didn't matter a ton in Texas, Trump was likely to win here anyway.
Reminds me of 2016. All the polls and guesses were Hillary had it in the bag. Woke up that morning feeling like someone sucker punched me.
I've been wary of predictions since then if for nothing else than to save me from developing a drinking problem to cope. Expect the worst and you'll never be surprised.
We'll have to see what happens when the final numbers come in, but I suspect the polls had it more wrong this time than in 2016. They actually weren't that far off at that time. People forget that Hillary did actually win the popular vote, and the national polls were within margin of error. That might not be the case this time.
I just assume the worst. Unfortunately this time I was right.
I tried to warn people. But no one here wanted to listen.