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[–] [email protected] 139 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's so fucking stupid they have to do this. All because of a conman and the morons that idolize him.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 week ago

Same. He is cancer.

[–] [email protected] 98 points 1 week ago

To be crystal clear, this is to protect against Republicans who are going to be angry when Donald Trump loses the election.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The Secret Service also have plans for physical security measures outside of the West Palm Beach, Fla. convention center where former President Trump will host an event on Election Night, the outlet reported.

They're going to need to keep the fascists inside.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Yeah I was gonna say, the call is coming from inside the building on that one.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

looks like it went up a couple weeks ago.

doesn't look super robust, but it's better than chain link

I'm glad there's something, since there was a violent coup, but I'm also glad they didn't go overboard and get like electrified interlocking metal gates.

I mean, there was an attempted coup.

some additional measures should be taken.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Looks solid to me, they definitely didn't cheap out. Ankered into the ground, connected to each other, and the mesh fine and solid enough to make it hard to get through. They're also high enough and hard to climb.

This creates enough choke points to control a mass, or to hold up individual groups long enough to get ahead of them.

Keep in mind that there will be additional guards this time and they won't have just sticks and shields.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

oh I must have missed that they were anchored into the ground.

I thought they were just standing on little platforms.

I'm good with anchor points.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I'm concerned about political violence throughout the country Tuesday more than I am in DC. In 2020 we had a very different level of organizing happening on the ground, and it wasn't unreasonable to be able to muster responses to right wing actions through various mutual aid networks at that time. DC has a great community and plenty of national resources to bring to bear as long as they are willing to use them.

Its the small regional population centers that don't have that level of preparedness, ability to respond, or sense of how important it is to respond in a timely manner. I'm concerned about the real possibility of mass casualty events, and I don't think most areas are prepared to deal with that.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think these are pretty valid concerns. I never imagined we'd need fucking sharpshooters on top of county buildings so they could count ballots safely. It does seem like some of the more contested areas are taking some precautions, I really hope we're wrong and everything goes smoothly.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Exactly. If you are in DC, you have the DC police, the Capitol police, the Parks police, the Secret Service, the National Guard, and if thats not enough, the god-damned Marine Barracks.

In many US counties, you are basically relying on a (potentially extremly right wing) Sheriff or local police to protect your constitutional rights, and potentially your life.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

we dont have national guard, notably.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

does it count as ours if we can't deploy them?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Given that we have a President who won't be trying to conduct his own coup currently... Yes

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Uh, DC can deploy the national guard. You don't have a governor, so, you know, the president of the united states is authorized to deploy them.

The DC mayor can also request they be deployed, but it needs to be approved by the fed.