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The petitioner calls for the European Union to actively develop and implement a Linux-based operating system, termed โ€˜EU-Linuxโ€™, across public administrations in all EU Member States.

This initiative aims to reduce dependency on Microsoft products, ensuring compliance with the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR), and promoting transparency, sustainability, and digital sovereignty within the EU.

The petitioner emphasizes the importance of using open-source alternatives to Microsoft 365, such as LibreOffice and Nextcloud, and suggests the adoption of the E/OS mobile operating system for government devices. The petitioner also highlights the potential for job creation in the IT sector through this initiative.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 76 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Why not support OpenSuse instead of starting from scratch? Mature, EU based, enterprise ready... it checks all the boxes IMHO.

[โ€“] [email protected] 53 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Don't confuse honest technical motivations with "technical motivations" here. Starting new projects to grab EU funding is a lot more profitable for the individual companies that get to take part in them. Especially when failure is an option in the end.

I'm not saying that's the case, but I have experienced one or two EU funded project here and there that didn't really make efforts to make the jump into a market viable product in the end.

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

I don't think there's any clear path for the petitioner here to land such a deal if the proposal was accepted, it's just a very short petition urging development of an EU linux distro?

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is surely more about packaging of apps on top of something that exists rather than creating something new. A huge bonus would however be a way to pay open source developers working on the tools deemed necessary to include in such a distribution.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

It would have to be more than that. If it's supposed to be backed by EU there would have to be an agency responsible for it's development and security. The moniker "EU certified" would require some sort of code evaluation and certification agency. As such it would become rather powerful.

I think it's a good idea, the OS would give the market a focus and allow for a collected development effort without excluding anyone active today from participating. Kinda like what I think Android was, without the risk of lock-in as it would be government funded.

The big question is if this would be within the current EU mandate, though.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

This is surely more about packaging of apps on top of something that exists rather than creating something new. A huge bonus would however be a way to pay open source developers working on the tools deemed necessary to include in such a distribution.

[โ€“] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Most probably it will be based on the existing Linux distribution like openSUSE, anyway, do I don't see anything wrong with that approach.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Hannah Montana

[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

Not even my distro of choice and I thought the exact same thing.

Makes more sense to me to do exactly that.

And on the side, do something like Germany's Sovereign Tech Fund to support other FOSS projects.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

yeah there will still be support/infra businesses needed to keep digital governance going just a matter of which is better value

i do think policies should be biassed towards open software/processes/protocols that can run on any platform

[โ€“] [email protected] 66 points 1 week ago

the focus should be on Public Money Public Code and reducing the dependence on foreign systems, not the branding or type of kernel. we could run OpenIndiana for all i care, as long as my tax money and PII doesn't go into Azure.

[โ€“] [email protected] 30 points 1 week ago

I'd prefer to call it EU+Linux. Linux is made possible by EU and wouldn't be useful without it

[โ€“] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

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[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Would be lovely if i could use my already existing EUID Account to vote there. But no, of course you need another separat account. For something from the same organisation that runs on the same domain ..

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