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[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 hours ago

I voted for Jill Stein in 2016 because I assumed Hillary was going to win anyway, and I was in a solidly red state so fuck it, might as well vote 3rd party.

Then Trump won.
Then I learned about Stein's backwards views on nuclear energy, GMOs and vaccines.
Then she turned out to be a Russian asset.
Then she decided to run again and again, knowing that she's only acting as a spoiler for the Dems.

Boy did I make a mistake in 2016. I wish there was a perfect candidate for everyone to vote for, but unfortunately keeping Trump out of the white house is the best we can do. Harris isn't my first choice, but I voted for her on behalf of all of the people who will suffer under another Trump presidency.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Damn, even people in other countries seem to understand what's going on. I guess they don't see both sides as the same for some reason. 🤔

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 hours ago

I'm sure people in other nations are holding their breath right now. This election has huge consequences world wide.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 hours ago

That's so sad. They think she's genuine.

[–] [email protected] 171 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

Breaking news: people with an actual commitment to environmentalism recognize Jill Stein for the obvious Russian shill and extreme threat to environmentalism she is. More at 11.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

The best thing Stein could do for the environment right now is to quit.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Decomposing is also an option.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Decomposition releases greenhouse gases. Better for her to preserve herself in a peat bog or something.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago
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[–] [email protected] 30 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Good. I was a part of the Green Party, I left when I learned they were planning of running a candidate this year, when internally, we were floating around the idea of NOT running a candidate. I am now a member of the Working Families Party.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Good on you, but I'd like to point out that you meant "a part" not "apart". Apart means separate from.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 hours ago

Thanks for the correction!

[–] [email protected] 97 points 9 hours ago (11 children)

You mean Russian Asset Jill Stein?

[–] [email protected] 58 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I was talking about intentional spoiler candidate for Trump whom Republicans are scrambling to get on as many ballots as possible Jill Stein, but maybe we're talking about the same person here.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Russia controls ¾ of US candidates. Awesome.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

A nation that sent his troops on an invasion without boots and helmets controls ¾ of the candidates of the most powerful and advanced nation in the world that spend 10 times as much money in war and propaganda than everyone else, that has thousand military facilities around the globe, that has the biggest mass surveillance network ever seen in history with satellites capable of snooping at every inch of the planet at any given time.

That's what you are saying.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah that's what I am saying. Trump is definitely compromised, for example. And he's not the only one, look at the Hungarian PM. They would sell their ass if Putin asked so.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

https://saganic.blogspot.com/2007/06/us-military-bases-in-italy-there-are.html

This is how many military facilities usa has in italy alone. More than 100. As an italian it seem laughable to me to believe that the former ceo of usa is controlled by russia.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Allora sei il primo italiano MAGA che io abbia mai visto. Comunque non ci sono 100 basi US, le stai mischiando con le basi NATO

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 hours ago

You are more MAGA than me, you are defending the US government who's former ceo is trump.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 hours ago

The very same

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 8 hours ago (7 children)

This might have helped two months ago. Thanks Europe. Better late than never I guess?

[–] [email protected] 34 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Europeans are confused by America's constant election cycle.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 hours ago

We're confused as hell how parliamentary systems work too, so fair I guess?

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

"Stein was reached for comment where she added: what the fuck do you think I'm running for, to actually be president? Ha! You're telling me to drop out so I can't do the thing I'm here to do which is help Trump win. You realize how dumb that is right?"

[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

At press time, Stein remarked: "No, no seriously guys, we're actually a serious party that has any business running for the highest office in the nation please believe me."

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

I would believe them if their party EVER got anyone elected, even to state congress, in even a third of the states.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 hours ago

I said it once, I'll say it again-

Until ranked choice vote is established and the electoral college is abolished, there are no serious third parties.

The most serious third party imo is the Forward Party, only because they have one platform which is RCV, and they are quietly working in local elections only. They aren't running any candidates in federal elections, although they had a big win in helping Alaska switch to RCV for their congressional race, which nudged out Sarah Palin.

With the forward party in conjunction with fairvote.org , they are laying the groundwork to create possibly the most revolutionary change to American politics ever.

But in order to do that, we need to have elections. Vote Harris.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

But they brag about five (5) whole Green Party members getting elected to state legislatures since 1985. You know, that's like one (1) whole member every eight (8) years, which is a lot considering there are only thousands of state legislature positions across the US (some of which have such little competition fucking Buck Cluck could probably get elected to a few dozen of them). So I think your point is moot tbh.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 8 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 hours ago

I don't think she really has a choice this close to the election. RFK has tried suing to get off the ballot in a few states and failed.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 hours ago

Jill Stein responded "I will not abondon this race comrades!"

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 hours ago

"But I've finally gotten David Duke on board!"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago
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