Pennsylvania is cheating
How?
and getting caught
Where?
at large scale levels rarely seen before.
When?
"Law enforcement must act, NOW!"
By doing what exactly?
this post was submitted on 31 Oct 2024
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"Gish Gallop."
It's a debate technique. You overwhelm the opposition with an endless stream of half truths, exaggeration's, lies, and tangents that make it impossible for them to get their point across.
Bannon during Trump's term referred to this as "flood the zone with shit". Essentially just putting out such a large volume of nonsense that people just give up, you break their will to vote/argue/oppose you/fight back/correct the record.
The thing that sucks is that it's so effective. It literally lead to Biden dropping out of the race. Trump spewed a bunch of bullshit really fast in their debate and Biden just froze up because it was so much.
I liked how Kamala handled it in their debate by basically saying "Look, I told you this guy was going to spout a bunch of nonsense." You've gotta call out the technique when you see it.
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We see Trump consistently make an outright lie, and in the same breath pivot to a personal attack such as “she’s a nasty woman.” This is another technique that adds something controversial after the lie so that the focus is on the controversial topic instead of the lie.
It makes it harder to peel what he says apart and puts space between the current point of conversation and the lie
The most fucked up thing is that Trump isn’t doing this necessarily intentionally. He’s just so crazy, that this is how his brain works.
Trump once said that his personality hasn't changed since was a child.
He talks like a little kid; words just spew out without any rhyme or reason.
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The only actual election interference I have heard about and people actually being charged is by the Republicans.
A lawsuit filed is not proof, I could file a lawsuit saying my neighbor stole my house. My house is still where it was but I could claim it's not and bring a lawsuit. I would lose but it's the principal of the fact that there is a suit that looks official and people think lawsuits means it's real.
Anyone can sue anyone for anything in this country. It may get tossed out right away but you can still file the lawsuit.
The general talk is that since being shot at he’s even more impulsive than prior.
didn't scientology win their religionship status because they flooded individuals at the IRS with thousands upon thousands of bullshit lawsuits? saying "this can all stop. it's up to you"
Operation Snow White was a criminal conspiracy by the Church of Scientology during the 1970s to purge unfavorable records about Scientology and its founder, L. Ron Hubbard. This project included a series of infiltrations into and thefts from 136 government agencies, foreign embassies and consulates, as well as private organizations critical of Scientology, carried out by Church members in more than 30 countries. It was one of the largest infiltrations of the United States government in history, with up to 5,000 covert agents. This operation also exposed the Scientology plot "Operation Freakout", because Operation Snow White was the case that initiated the U.S. government's investigation of the Church.
They have mountains of evidence, stacked to the ceiling with all the evidence from the 2020 election and Hunter's laptops
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You see, he doesn't have evidence, but he has concepts of evidence.
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Its so weird to see this unfold now where they know they can't win in any legitimate manner so they are doing stuff like this before the election is even over. Its like, hey guys we only need the election to have a pretense that cheating is going on, which we all know is happening, but we blame it on the other side and seize power.
There was already an instance I read about yesterday where some former representative was caught on camera stealing ballots from a test machine and then telling someone else that the counts were fucked up (because he stole the ballots) so they want to create their own reality where the election is rigged...
I honestly think it's going to work... They're either going to get lucky and hate wins the day outright, or they'll force a win through ratfuckery... :(
I saw that one too. Even if the media reports on it truthfully with headlines that don't ragebait readers by withholding the fact that it was a R stealing R test ballots, MAGAots are just going to cherry pick "R ballot stolen" and raise their pitchforks.
Objectivity and truth doesn't matter to the Qult of bigots, unfortunately.
that it was a R stealing R test ballots,
For clarification, he and a number of other voters were pre-selected to test the functionality of the ballots and voting machines to ensure no glitches happen on November 5. And while they were not the final draft of the ballots that were actually used, they were legitimate ballots by actual voters who voted early, and those ballots were just as valid as the final drafts.
So yeah, the guy stole 3 votes.
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And with the usual ambiguous word salad too.
Hey, you heard about all this incredible cheating? Cheating. Cheating! Vote cheating is bad, it's so bad. Never seen anything so bad I tell you. But the police does nothing. Nothing! You think vote cheating is ok? I don't think people should be allowed to get away with it!
Etc etc etc ad nauseam.
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Quite a lot of the misinformation out of PA stems from a willful ignorance of how all this stuff works.
For example... the voter registration drives turning in invalid registrations:
"District attorneys and election officials in both Lancaster County and York County are looking into potential election-related fraud after authorities received large batches of voter registration materials from a "third-party organization." Both York and Lancaster counties have more registered Republican voters than Democrats, according to state data, with York Republicans holding a 63% majority in the area and Lancaster Republicans at a 61% majority."
When you do a voter registration drive, you are legally obligated to submit all registrations, valid or not. The only entity with the legal authority to reject registrations as valid is the State Secretary of State office.
This is because, back in the day, parties would do registration drives and just shit-can any registration for opposing parties.
Now, even if some dumbass fills out a registration for "Mickey Mouse" or "Superman", it STILL has to be submitted to the Secretary of State for rejection.
That's not "voter fraud".
Look how much time and text it took to refute a few tiny bullshit utterances. Its impossible even if it was desireable, which its not. He needs to be in custody and in 24/7 solitary with zero internet access. He's a goddamn terrorist
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Hasn't even lost yet and he is already being a sore loser.
Imagine idolizing this loser.
"I DIDN'T LOSE YOU CHEATED!!!"
"We haven't begun yet, sir"
"Sorry, habit"
He's riling up his base. People are going to die for this skidmark
You ain't fucking kidding. Cities are about to get raided by hillbillies & rednecks with guns on trucks. I wish I was exaggerating.
No. Remember after Jan 6 when the badass freedom-fighters promised ominous "actions" in state capitals on Biden's inauguration day? That day came and went, and at the few "actions" that did happen attendance was in the dozens. When those chickenshit couch farts saw their revolutionary heroes getting methodically tracked down and arrested by the FBI, they stayed home and shook their tiny fists at their TVs. That pathetic bunch of cowards love to talk badass, but when faced with actual personal risk they couldn't civil war their way out of a Walmart.
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From The Guardian:
The queues for late mail ballots were a result of Pennsylvania not having an early on-site voting system at designated spots, as is the case in some other states. Instead, voters can apply for ballots on demand at election offices before filling them out and submitting them on the spot, a procedure that takes about 10 minutes.
The flood of late applicants overwhelmed electoral workers in Bucks county’s administration building in Doylestown, leading to a long queue, which was cut off at about 2.45pm on Tuesday
I went to drop off my ballot on Saturday and when I got there, not to the main office in Doylestown, but one of the smaller remote offices, and there was a huge line all the way across the front of the building and I was wondering what the heck was going on.
As I was getting to the end of the line, a person came over and asked if I already had my ballot, and when they saw it, they said I could go right in and drop it off. There was only one couple ahead of me there.
I had been wondering what the line was for, and now that makes sense. The Republicans had made the mail in ballot more complicated than necessary during COVID, so now they seem to feel it biting them as their potential supporters have been screwed by it.
“Democrat election officials are seeing our numbers. They’re seeing our turnout. They are seeing us breaking early vote records across Pennsylvania,” he said. “They are terrified. And they want to stop our momentum. We are not going to let them suppress our votes.”
Pennsylvania does not start counting votes before election day. Nobody has any clue as to who is voting for whom.
They've broken the system and want to say "look at this broken system, we can't trust it!" To me that just shows we can't trust you!
I really hope Pennsylvanians do the right thing. These people need to be stopped.
The Republicans had made the mail in ballot more complicated than necessary during COVID, so now they seem to feel it biting them as their potential supporters have been screwed by it.
“Democrat election officials are seeing our numbers. They’re seeing our turnout. They are seeing us breaking early vote records across Pennsylvania,” he said. “They are terrified. And they want to stop our momentum. We are not going to let them suppress our votes.”
This is the shit that is INFURIATING to me... They broke the system thinking it would hurt Democrats but now that it's affecting them they just blame Democrats which also helps them in the end... God I hate these people so much
Yup, same nonsense as when they sabotage the Post Office and talk about how that doesn't work. The votes against immigration reform and then the yelling about that not working. Won't cut spending or raise taxes but complain about deficit spending.
They want you to want to throw out our current system so they can replace it. That's why it's important to understand the right people to be mad at. If you get mad at anyone other than them themselves, they win.
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They’ve broken the system and want to say “look at this broken system, we can’t trust it!”
This has been their process for... ever. They cut funding to government agencies (eg. FEMA), then when said agency has a hard time doing their job. they point a scream that the agency can't do it's job and should therefore have it's funding cut. Rinse, lather, repeat. And right wing voters fall for the sham every 👏 single 👏 time 👏.
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Nice of him to get all the denial stuff started early so both sides have a nice heads start.
/s
On a serious note though, dems can weapons this
“Trump is a sore loser even before people vote”
But they won’t.
Blame Weird Old 34's enablers for not holding him accountable when they had the chance: Moscow Mitch McConnell, the conservative SCOTUS Justices, Merrick Garland's slowness, and so many more!
That sounds like a form of dementia.
“Grandpa used to be a top notch line worker before he got the Merrick Garland’s slowness.”
if the courts werent so loaded in his favor those suits could be more easily dismissed.
If the Democrats had any balls Biden would court-marshall him and charge him for interfering in international affairs pertaining to both Israel and Russia. Skip the courts, he served the executive branch, head of the military, take him to a military court.
The campaign did not point to any instance in particular that led it to believe that voters had been treated unfairly in Bucks County, but county officials had observed that there were complaints on social media (shared by the Trump campaign) about long lines to obtain mail-in ballots on Tuesday, the last day of their availability.
If you wait until the last minute you might have to wait in line with the other procrastinators. This is not cheating or fraud it's just common sense. But it tracks for Boomers to throw a tantrum if the world doesn't magically accommodate them and they have to wait for anything.
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Bonespurs knows this bogus litigation won't even cost him anything, his flock will pay for it.
I would actually call it a ho-hum sign. It's just his fingernails scraping the floor as he gets dragged out of the spotlight to spend the rest of his sad-ass life in court.
but county officials had observed that there were complaints on social media (shared by the Trump campaign) about long lines to obtain mail-in ballots on Tuesday, the last day of their availability
This is all about allowing people to vote by mail in ballot??? What the fuck was his 2020 complaints all about???
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Not very surprising, they'll likely push multiple lawsuits in swing states. At least the state justice systems learned from 2020 and 2022 and are expediting these lawsuits to avoid dragging them out and further erode confidence in the electoral system.
LegalEagle published an early access video on Nebula for their paid subscribers explaining the different scenarios to come, and it should show up on YouTube soon.
EDIT: The video is out
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"Law enforcement must act, NOW!" he added.
Welp, he's right about that part! Just not the way he thinks.
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