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Cooking with any plastic is a dubious enterprise, because heat encourages potentially harmful plastic compounds to migrate out of the polymers and potentially into the food. But, as Andrew Turner, a biochemist at the University of Plymouth recently told me, black plastic is particularly crucial to avoid.

In 2018, Turner published one of the earliest papers positing that black plastic products were likely regularly being made from recycled electronic waste. The clue was the plastic’s concerning levels of flame retardants. In some cases, the mix of chemicals matched the profile of those commonly found in computer and television housing, many of which are treated with flame retardants to prevent them from catching fire.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Do they make wooden thin spatulas?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

No, but they do make them in metal.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 15 hours ago

Would silicone be a safe alternative?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 15 hours ago

This destroys my ceramic coated pans sadly. I have wood utensils except for a couple plastic spatulas specifically for flipping eggs because the wood ones aren't thin enough to not destroy them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Useles in pans, unfortunately, because they scratch the teflon.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 14 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 0 points 15 hours ago

Teflon

More cancer lol

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

flame removedants

facepalm. Censorship absurdity.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Part of the reason why I reject "retard" as an "ablest slur" you're just outright not allowed to say. When we don't censor idiot, stupid, moron, etc. I'm going to live to se the term "intellectually alternative" become unspeakable.

One of my favorites of these was "salsmurfer." On a multitool collector forum, the autocensor was set to replace bad words with "smurf." So there was a lot of "What the smurf was Gerber thinking?" One of the banned words was "twat." Something that multitool users are often concerned about is whether an expensive steel tool will survive service in maritime environments or indeed when used while diving in the ocean. An English teacher will tell you that "salt water" is two words, but what do they know?

"Will a skeletool rust if exposed to salsmurfer?"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

That is your instance doing a shitty job of filtering.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

That's probably your instance. It shows up normally for me.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Plastic and food shouldn't mix.

We fucked up real bad. Gonna be a long road to fix this shit.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 13 hours ago

Shameless plug: Buy a wooden end-grain cutting board from a local craftsman. They make great gifts this holiday season.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago

The new thing is PFAS in the food chain. We're fucking it up faster than we're fixing it. Almost like profit motivation was a bad idea.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Food should never touch anything artificial. If it hasn't been levitating since the day it was hand harvested from old growth forest, it's basically pure poison.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 15 hours ago

I yeet my food so high it stays in the air/orbit just long enough before I plan to eat it. Sometimes, it hits wild geese on the way up and they get cooked during reentry.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is very specific since he even build up a little rice tower pressing up against the foil.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well, you need food, metal and another metal all touching each other for this to happen. I've seen my sister make the mistake IRL so it certainly does happen.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How did she manage to do it? I usually only see people use this example for topping half eaten pots, which means the amount of food in them should be far away from the aluminium foil.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

What kind of utter madman both (a) doesn't have matching lids for his pots and also (b) refuses to take the leftovers out of a pot (which is a vessel for cooking, not storage) and put them into a more appropriate container?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago

Wait until you find out that I even eat out of the pot!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Also, if you have a cast iron pan that is extremely rusted, get a brass bristle drill attachment and blast all the rust off with it.

After you have finished that and cleaned it, season it like the other poster mentioned and it will be as smooth as almost any Teflon you've ever used.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Geez, I hope people aren’t out there using rusted cast iron. That’s beyond ignorant.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 16 hours ago

I’m ignorant. Tell me what’s the problem with rust? I thought iron oxide is a fairly stable compound.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

I have found cast iron pans in the trash that were trashed because they were Rusty. Cleaning them, de-rusting them, and reseasoning them but them back into service and they are some of my favorite cast iron.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Do yourself a favour and start using proper cast iron or stainless steel frying pans as well. You gotta learn how to use them, but it's a whole different level. I'm never going back to non-stick.

To get started with a new pan:

  1. Pour a bit of oil in it
  2. Dry it ALL up with a paper towel
  3. Heat up to high temperature, let cool.
  4. Repeat three times or so. This creates a coating of hardened oil.

Never, ever, wash with soap. If you do by accident, repeat the above process to coat the pan again.

When cooking:

  1. Heat up pan
  2. Add oil
  3. Add things into pan only when hot
  4. Use water or wine to deglaze when things get a little stuck. That's where you get deliciousness from - it's a feature, not a bug.

I use an old cast iron that's a bit rugged in the bottom for pancakes. It's the most amazing thing ever. I found it in the trash one day. The cast iron allows me to use a steel spatula when it needs to be thin, otherwise I use wood.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I thought this is only something done to cast iron. Should you do this with stainless steel pots too?!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 19 hours ago

The "to get started with a new pan" part only applies to (bare, not enameled) cast iron. The "when cooking" part applies to both.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A new cast iron pan should be washed with soap and water. They’re usually coated with something you don’t want to be eating to keep them from rusting from the factory to your home. You scrub that off and then season it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 18 hours ago

Huh, good to know - I've only ever used old ones. They always clean off pretty easy with just water and a firm dish brush.

After Googling a bit, it turns out dish soaps were much more powerful in the past, which is why old people always say not to use dish soap in a pan. Newer soaps are generally milder and won't damage the seasoning. It never occurred to me to question it. Thanks!

I'll probably keep going without soap though, but it's nice to know I can be a little less fanatic about it. :)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I wash my cast iron with dish soap after every use and I can still slide eggs around in the pan. Definitely agree, though. I only have 1 non-stick pan that I almost never use. Stainless steel and cast iron are really the only 2 types that you need

[–] [email protected] 0 points 19 hours ago

Enameled cast iron (which IMO is different enough from regular cast iron to be a separate category) is a nice choice for dutch ovens.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

Greenpan FTW!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You can wash these pans with soap, you just shouldn’t abrade them. Soap isn’t going to remove the molecular bonding unless you’re scrubbing the hell out of it.

Also, Teflon’s a no go but I was under the impression ceramic is ok. Is anything wrong with that coating for cooking?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 18 hours ago

Thanks - apparently modern soap is much milder on the seasoning, so it's not really a problem any more. I've never thought to question the advice that was passed down the generations. :)

Nothing wrong with ceramic from a food safety perspective. I love it in my cast iron pot, not sure I would go for it in a frying pan.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Ceramic loses its' non-stick properties quite fast, cause the coating gets porous.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 22 hours ago

Yeah our Fika ceramic pans aren’t that great anymore after 2 years.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm on year four of using a ceramic pan to cook scrambled eggs in butter at least 4 days a week and it is still pretty slick.

Is it other foods like acidic tomato sauces that mess with the coating?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 17 hours ago

Your coating might be ok for you still, while still having lost a lot of its' non-stickiness.

Usually, you gan fry eggs on non-stick pans without butter (even if butter is delicious): can you sill do that?

It's usually not a chemical reaction like what's happening with acidic foods on the coating of a cast iron/carbon steel pan. Ceramics is quite brittle, so mechanical shocks can create micro cracks, which are hard to see but makes food stick.