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Innuendo Studios has a good video on this in their alt right playbook series. Republicans will gladly appeal to the far right, Democrats want to distance themselves from the left as much as possible and are instead focused on also appealing to the right...
Ultimately, while a lot of the parties policies are different on the surface, Democrats still win when Republicans are in power because they're part of the same class, hoarding wealth works for both sides. Democrats seemingly only exist to make the system vageuly stomachable (is that even a word?) to the rest of America.
Palatable
As opposed to palpatinable, which is appearing to be democratic until being hit by lightning and then going all in for unlimited power
Thanks! I knew there was a real word out there
To be clear this isn't Russian anti-American propaganda.
It is Mexican.
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If you replace "democrat" with "mainstream liberals", and "republicans" with "conservatives", then you got a meme about politics in general in most of the developed world.
I don't like them, but it was still heartbreaking to see Demokratikus Koalíció, a mainstream liberal party that was probably the most progressive in the whole Hungarian opposition block at that point, is cozying up to anti-trans ideas.
Fuck yeah
¡Saludos desde Nogales!
¡Saludos desde Albuquerque!
Support and vote for progressive candidates in primaries.
What primaries?
Ohai!
I'm glad someone improved it though, I was on my phone when I did it and couldn't get the finger to overlap the sign!
Thank you for the memes to steal
At your service, comrade 🫡
Voting Harris is the right thing to do from a lesser evil standpoint. I think everyone should, but I understand those who won't from an anti-genocide standpoint and won't blame them for it, unless they vote Trump, that's unacceptable. You might as well write in Bernie if you're thinking Green, they got the same chance of winning. Ultimately, it's on Harris and her campaign strategy for failing to part from Biden on Israel. They are taking that risk, which I think is very dumb and dangerous considering the sentiment of voters, it's on them whether it pans out or not.
What's far more important is for everyone to vote down ballot. Find out which options support progressive policies and vote for them.
So what you're saying is that we only need to push down on the Democrats lever and we'll fly to the left
Actually, yes. Put pressure on the democrats to change instead of just voting them through, that is a start.
I don't think anyone here said just vote for them and don't put pressure on them. I'm fact I'm pretty sure everyone says exactly that
jesus you people are so literal, sorry that I wasn't clear enough for you. It isn't "just" the people on lemmy either it is all of the Americans, and no I don't think Americans, in general, are going to do fuck all besides "just" voting, if they even do that - a really small percentage of people even bother to show up or registered and have enough time off from their jobs from what I understand. The non voters aren't people who support Palestine for the most part, it is horribly exploited and dis-educated people who don't care at all.
I don't know why you think you have to say any of this
I am allowed to say whatever the fuck I want about whatever the fuck I feel like talking about. I was raised in the USA but that isn't even relevant. If you don't want to hear it why don't you put your head in the sand like all the other Americans.
To be clear though, it's not a "fake" two party system, it's a very real systematically entrenched duopoly.
You realize this is an argument in favor of voting for Democrats, right? Real progress doesn't happen in a single day in November, but that day in November can stop things from getting worse while real progress happens elsewhere.
That’s right. People don’t realize that Democrats keep moving to the right because when they are in power they have such thin margins that you depend on votes from the likes of Manchin and Sinema.
I guess that is a take if you can't read and comprehend what is actually happening. This is showing how all you have is to go more and more fascist with every day with no let up. You can't make progress because your duopoly only ever moves right. To be clear I don't care who you vote for, your elections or anything about the shit hole Yankee empire.
Either we're doomed and voting for the Democrats does no harm, or it's possible to pull ourselves out of this spiral and voting for the Democrats could buy us the time we need to do it. I can't see the future, I don't truly know which of us is right, and even if I'm right and it is possible that doesn't necessarily mean we will succeed, but as long as there is even the tiniest shred of uncertainty then it is worth giving ourselves every possible chance. The most powerful military in the world falling fully to fascism will go global, and it will end with a death toll unlike anything the world has ever seen. I'd rather not let that happen, if I have a choice. I may not. It may be too late, but even if I wanted to run, where would I be safe from the US? There is no such place.
ok sure buddy, good luck with your rigged elections. If I were you I'd be armed to the teeth and forming a militia with like minded people or making plans to get the fuck out of there, literally anywhere, before the fascists take full control. Fascists don't care about elections it is totally a joke to them. Fascists will push the country to a crisis and seize power, like Hitler did, and Mussolini did, neither of whom won an election.
but even if I wanted to run, where would I be safe from the US? There is no such place.
Classic USian narcissism. Literally the entire rest of the world is going to resist and we will be victorious. Luckily for us Americans are for the most part completely incompetent.
Please don't put words in my mouth. I don't believe the US is invincible or will beat the whole rest of the world or anything like that. In the end fascists always fail, because they're not actually good at running countries.
Be real though. Just because the US isn't invincible doesn't mean the US military can't choose to eradicate any one location on Earth and no one can stop them. All that air and naval power means nowhere is safe from a strike. And that's before we start talking about giving a fully fascist government access to a cartoonishly oversized nuclear arsenal. When things go badly enough for them, there is a very real chance they hit the F you button and take everyone else down with them.
Also, let's be real again, not everyone is going to be on the other side. The US has a lot of allies, and it's not the only place where fascism is on the rise. The capacity for destruction is like nothing the world has ever seen, and I especially wouldn't want to be in a place like Mexico, given the proximity and all the fascist propaganda about Mexicans.
The American system is designed to block you from changing it. So unless you are willing to run you are going to die.
You're the one advocating for doing nothing.
You are advocating for working within a broken system. You are going to die unless you get your head out of your ass. I'm also blocking you because I don't believe you have anything worthwhile to read. Get out now before its too late.
Fuck the USA.
Broken things can be fixed. You don't always have to give up and throw it away.
Classic case of open minded, forward thinking from the mods here. Can’t take an open discussion about how to do what we all want if it even calls into question current methods. Where does that fall on some sort of political compass thing? Left-> authoritarian?
Before my comment got deleted, the response was “I’m not here to tell you how to accomplish anything.”
…why not? Do we not all want the same thing? If we do, discussing our tactics and a showing a little fuckin solidarity across borders are…kinda important dontcha think? But that does go to prove my original point, that this post isn’t about how to do what we all want, how to solve problems we all see. It’s about patting yourself on the back. We all need to be a little better.
You're right, I'm here to post memes about how the United States sucks. There are no answers, the US is on a terminal decline to fascism and you're the one demanding someone posting memes tell you an answer. The answer is you need to get the fuck out of that shit hole asap or die. That is what happened to my family in 1979, the ones that were fighters and stayed behind are all dead and my relatives that ran are still alive.
I actually did post a real solution to your issues if you were smart enough to read between the lines but to be honest I have to cross the border to the US pretty often for various bullshit and don't want to be detained.
You really come off as a massive fucking twat to all of us who are trapped in the US and have no where to go. Like we enjoy fascism. And voting to save ourselves is just a stupid waste of time. So we should just rot in place and accept it instead of casting a smelly vote for a democrat. Whats four more years of stability if my life doesn't match your academic philosophy? Actually fuck you. Enjoy being Not American so you can crudely point and laugh. You're a myopic piece of shit.
As if Trump would be good for Mexico either. Jesus Christ.
You're only stuck if you decide that you're stuck. You're not getting any stability with Harris, you're going to get a crisis. Fascists don't care about elections, they push a society to crisis and seize power. The US doesn't have 4 years left. Wake up and run. It isn't me that you are mad at, it is yourself.
I'm not being a twat to you, I'm explaining that a person posting memes for awareness doesn't necessarily have the answers. You are all so lost and blaming me for it but I don't care who you blame. I know what to do, it isn't a secret. Be useful, be prepared to run. It is too late for you to organize into a revolutionary army in the US and resist and they have robot dogs. You still have months to act to protect yourself. This is a warning not someone being a twat but since you have already accepted defeat you think that.
Vent your depression elsewhere.
The primary way that the Dems keep it from going left is by keeping the stupid filibuster around, hamstringing the ability for them to pass legislation when they hold the senste, house, and oval office. They can achieve the same goal by holding only one of the three and it isn't like the Republicans respected the completely voluntary filibuster when it was time for them to stack the courts.
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