Apple finally caught up with 2018 technology
this post was submitted on 30 Oct 2024
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Just in time for 32gb to become the necessary standard, so they can still sell you egregiously overpriced ram upgrades.
Cool cool cool cool. Can I buy 16GB now and upgrade my Mac later ?
Yep! With apples new patent pending upgrade process, it's super easy!
You take the device that you want to upgrade and you throw it in the garbage and then you go to an Apple store and you pick up the upgraded model! It's so streamlined!
The M2 macbook air now starts at $1000 for 16GB RAM and 256GB storage. Limited storage aside, that's surprisingly competitive with most modern Windows laptops.
What do you mean limited storage aside?
If we disregard the fact that it's terrible value for money, it's a good deal. No laptop sold in 2025 and costing over a grand, should have anything less than a terabyte.
But it has a apple logo and it browses facebook just fine.
watch how (corporate) operating systems will now be heavier accordingly.
Yes it’s described as being for “Apple intelligence” which I’m sure won’t be bloated nor hard to disable at all.. sigh
It’s literally a toggle in the settings under apple intelligence
People don't want the 8gb ram because they are all used to windows I bet it.
Or Linux Or MacOS Or any computer really
Finally the RAM on that thousand dollar machine is on par with my decade old T420!
Hello fellow 7-row-keyboard Thinkpad user! (I use a W520)
EDIT: btw it's a bit older than a decade ago
Even better!
Considering their industry-leader status, it's about 5-7 years too late.
I dunno if I'd even consider them an industry leader, unless you break down their ubiquity by industry category (in which they lead graphic design and maybe video editing, iirc). They lead phone sales in the US by a lot, but their overall desktop share is still relatively small (<10%), and their global footprint is buoyed only by iOS (which is still below Windows and Android).
I would say they're an innovator, and they push certain companies to innovate, but they don't really lead by that many metrics.
I meant leading as in "if Apple does something, others will too". That has been true for quite a long time now.
And by that definition, I agree
Completely laughable. Literally had 16 GB of DDR3-1600 for my 2600K from 2011 that I handed down to a kid nephew for their first PC to tinker with. Hell, my local NAS has more than that...
We use windows PCs at work as software engineers now, but when I was training I used a MacBook Pro M1 with 16GB of RAM and that thing was incredibly performant.
I know it in vogue to shit in Apple, but they build the hardware and the software and they’re incredibly efficient at what they do and I don’t think I ever saw the beachball loading icon thing.
Now the prices they charge to upgrade the RAM is something I can get behind shitting on.
You can use Linux with RAM compression to have the same kind of economy that MacOS does.
Just nobody bothers.
I used Windows, Mac and Linux in the past year.
It's not Mac that's fast, it's Windows that sucks hard.
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The chip and OS won't do shit when your ram is saturated by electron apps taking 800MB each. Maybe MacOS behaves better under very high memory pressure than windows does, but it doesn't mean it's okay to rip off consumers. That whole 8GB on mac = 16GB on windows has been bullshit all along, and is mostly based on people looking at the task manager and seeing high ram usage on windows (which is a good thing)
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Fucking PHONES had more RAM. It was so fucking stupid. And despite their arguments, it was proven time and time again 8GB was not enough.
The localllama people are feeling quite mixed about this, as they're still charging through the nose for more RAM. Like, orders of magnitude more than the bigger ICs actually cost.
It's kinda poetic. Apple wants to go all in on self-hosted AI now, yet their incredible RAM stinginess over the years is derailing that.
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insultingly tiny, unupgradeable storage aside, that's surprisingly competitive with most modern Windows laptops
It's not ideal, but you're getting probably the best hardware in the market in return. The M series still dominates Windows CPUs, and the build quality on most $1000 laptops leaves a lot to be desired.
build quality on most $1000 laptops
You're not kidding.
I have a couple of laptops from various vendors, and they're all built like shit.
ASUS is especially eyerolly: the case is literally crumbling into pieces. Like seriously? You couldn't have picked a material that's not literally going to disintegrate in two years on a $1200 laptop?
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Now that 64GB is the standard
“640k is enough for anyone.”
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