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[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 hours ago

Because easy and accessible voting is extremely bad for one party.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 12 hours ago

"We"? Who are "we"? Star fleet?

People have to remember that this is the Internet, this thing is global.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 12 hours ago

Because corporations own you and this means they can pressure how you vote in key states.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

We don't get the day off to vote in MN but you are legally allowed to take time off to go vote (with pay). So when I was in the office, I always voted in the middle of the day right after my lunch hour.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago

Our boss just took us out to lunch and gave us four hours off the rest of the day to go out and vote, which is probably the most encouragement to vote I think I've ever gotten from any boss before. I'm sure I was entitled to it this whole time, but it's never been encouraged like this before with this boss at any of my other workplaces, if anything, previous bosses probably would've talked shit if I said that's what I wanted to do with my time.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 14 hours ago

I had a job for a few years with no MLK and no President's day. That stretch from New Years to Memorial Day was very, very long.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

In most civilized countries, voting takes place on weekends and your employer is legally obligated to let you leave work to go vote

[–] [email protected] 7 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Employees have to let you leave to vote.

They can also fire you the next day for a coincidentally unrelated reason, and unless you have 50k in lawyers retainers handy there’s not shit you can do about it

[–] [email protected] 7 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

That's not true.

In most states, employers don't need any reason at all to fire you.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago

“At will” employment, woohoo!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 14 hours ago

Depends on the state. In MN state law allows you take as much time as necessary to go vote with pay. I can't remember when this was passed but I'm going to "Thanks Walz" anyways.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago

Some places give you a whole week to vote, and the polls are open 12 hours a day. So if you something happens and your plans are ruined, you have ample time to still make it to the polls.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Meanwhile all the schools in my area are polling places so kids don't have school.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Forcing many parents to take the day off anyway, but unpaid (or using PTO time, if they have it).

Working as intended. Make voting as difficult and distasteful as possible so we can welcome fascism with big warm hugs. Finally, no more of that voting nonsense.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago

Early voting is a better solution to the problem than making it a day off, though.

[–] [email protected] 116 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Because they don't want the workers voting.

If you "can't go to the ballot because you need to work" you are a plebeian, and so they have a way of excluding you while technically not excluding you.

A lot of modern oligarchy is powered by these technicalities. Technically everyone has a "right to" participate in the system, but the whole apparatus is rigged in such a way that in material reality only the same nobility caste that has called the shots since the bronze fucking age gets to call the shots.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago

"The law, in its majestic equality, forbids rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal their bread."

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago (5 children)

By law employers are required to allow their workers an opportunity to vote. The problem is other stuff like taking their kids to school and having to go to work right after and by the time you make it to the poll through rush hour traffic, the line is out the door and they shut it down and don’t let you vote even though you waited for an hour.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 13 hours ago

I'm so glad my state has mail-in voting. Sorry buddy.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago (4 children)

My roommate asked for time off to vote; her employer literally laughed at her. Now, there is legal recourse there, and she would have likely won and even gotten awarded a money judgment.

But she needed that job without interruption. This was in Canada, by the way.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So the bare minimum that even my little Eastern European hellhole could do was that a polling place closing means that those in line can still vote.

A poll worker gets in line exactly at closing time, and those in front get to vote however long that takes. It's not hard to organize.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's exactly the same in the very opposite end of Europe (and about as poor) - Portugal - which I know becaused I maned the polling places a couple of times and read the rule book.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Thanks for your service, unironically

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

People generally do it because they're in a political party, plus you get paid for it though I think it takes many months for it to come in (never really worried enough about it to keep an eye out for that money coming into my bank account) and it doesn't add up to much per hour for what's a really long day (from about 6 AM to around 10 - 12PM depending on how long it takes to count the votes of one's polling station).

It's an interesting experience if a bit tiring.

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[–] [email protected] 262 points 1 day ago (12 children)
[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 day ago

If people actually voted, they might vote for people the oligarchy doesn't like. Bet you didn't think about that, huh? Checkmate libruls!

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago

Dudes working at most hourly lower end type jobs still wouldn't get election day off, unless you mandated like octuple pay for anyone working that day (They should)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

And why is presidents day called Washington's birthday?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 14 hours ago

Fred Astaire would explain it to you, but he can't tell a lie.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Because originally the holiday just celebrated the first US president, George Washington and then they consolidated into Presidents Day so they didn't have plethora of Dead President Birthday holidays.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

We had Washington's Birthday and Lincoln's Birthday both as holidays when I was a kid. Lincoln was born in November, so it wasn't a perfect balance with February, but it was close enough to one.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah and I think they collapsed into president's day to avoid adding a day for Kennedy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago

That would make sense.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We should just have elections on presidents day.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (3 children)

And that way presidents day finally has an actual purpose.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

It has a purpose...that's when we have big sales at the car dealerships. Just as George Washington always wanted.

How would people have time to get more car-poor if they had to stop shopping to do something silly like vote for the leader of the free world?

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[–] [email protected] 78 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Cuz America is a backwards ass country

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[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Wait, you guys are getting President's Day off work??

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Sure, here you go: https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/7329

One of many such bills.

Take a look at the sponsors. I'll give you 1 guess at which party would vote it down, because it would hurt them in elections.

It's the same reason Puerto Rico will never be a state.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

You are getting President's Day off?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

In France elections are held on a Sunday so most people don't work, the others are allowed time off to vote of course

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