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[–] [email protected] 169 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Just fucking do it, or do you agree with him that your island is a floating pile of trash?

These idiots are so terrified that if Trump takes power, their heads will be on the chopping block for standing up to him... Grow a pair already and do what's right for the country! No more of this "Stop or I'll say stop again" bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Yeah... plenty of Republicans already did that. They got voted out or kicked out.

There are a few tough holdouts like Murkowski (Alaskan Senator), but the mass extinction already happened.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Murkowski voted with trump plenty

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Sure, but the litmus test is "was the 2020 election stolen?", that's the yes/no that determines whether you are suitably loyal. Very simple, very effective.

Murkowski actually voted to convict him.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, and we're going to see more of her fighting with Trump (if he wins) because she could be the tie-breaker vote now:

https://www.axios.com/2024/10/27/senate-collins-murkowski-harris-trump

Zoom in: Collins and Murkowski will be two of only three GOP senators left who voted to convict Trump in an impeachment trial. Neither have endorsed him this year, and they haven't shied away from criticism.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We wouldn't see any fighting Donald because she is a Repub. They are all in collusion under the Federalist Society.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

She and Collins have already had spats with Trump. They voted to convict him, just to start. And if Trump gets in office, you can bet there will be a whole lot more.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Susan "he's learned his lesson" Collins?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If they don't do it Trump is going to throw them under the bus anyway. Do they really want to be on the Leopards Eating People's Faces Party?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Well the calculus is that their endorsement doesn't matter anyway, and they're kinda right. Honestly nothing negative about Trump moves the needle at all.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Trump Puerto Ricans do agree the place is a trash island. They just think it's the fault of the 'others'. They thinkTrump sees the problems and will fix things for the 'good ones' like themselves.

They do not see that they are part of Trumps 'bad ones'

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

These idiots are so terrified that if Trump takes power

It seems that many people are more motivated by fear and power than by what is morally correct.

[–] [email protected] 91 points 2 weeks ago

“Threatens to” = he won’t

[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 weeks ago

Do it you coward.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 weeks ago

The thing is, if he wins they are in trouble anyway, do they not remember the paper towels he tossed at them in a time of need last time? He has surrounded himself with nothing but fascists and racists this time around, I would be surprised if he didn't hold aid for the next hurricane until they can "pay their fair share".

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 weeks ago

Oh no a leopard ate your face!

Honestly, fuck you, you coward.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Two newspapers walked it back based on the possibility because they know political retributions and military use will happen. And this guy hesitates. They all are, out of fear. It’s already begun.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's more than two. As of this morning, Gannett is banning all of their publications from making an endorsement.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

So we’re already done with democracy. Authoritarianism IS now happening.

Because that what it means when the press does.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago

Protip: It's not a threat if you never have any intention of following through with it.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago

Dude should go a step further and push for PR statehood.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

Talking out her ass.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Popcorn intensifies

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Not a single Trump voter changed their minds. The Trump Puerto Ricans agree with this. They just think it's the 'others' fault.

This may even get them TO vote since someone sees the 'problems' they live with. This is how EVERY group that votes Trump against their own interest feel.

spoilerThey 100% don't know they are included with the 'problem'

VOTE

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

I can attest to you being half right based on my two Puerto Rican coworkers, both Trumpers.

One rationalized his choice by saying two things (paraphrasing his words):

  1. Puerto Ricans have the same trash sentiment about Dominicans and aren't shy about it. So since they dish it out, they should be able to take it.

  2. He decided Puerto Rico is trash because the government is corrupt and pockets all the US federal funding.

It didn't bother him that Tony Hinchcliffe, or Trump's campaign at large has no place saying these things.

The other coworker has changed his mind and is NOT ok with the comments. It may be too late since he probably already voted; I'm not going to ask him.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Oh I’m sure that will show em. You get em champ.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 weeks ago

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