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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

Ranked is better than our current system, but it still has a lot of flaws. Approval and STAR are better systems.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

~~I’m not American~~

I’ve seen this meme shared going back to “3 months before the election”. When people have been protesting for way longer than that, and not only have they been ignored, but silenced, I’m not surprised when they turn to more drastic measures to be heard.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 days ago (2 children)

They haven’t built any third party to anything meaningful yet.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

They haven’t built any third party to anything meaningful yet.

Sure "they" have! The Russians have built a third party that manufactures fake outrage and sows chaos that attempts to drive a wedge between left and far left opinions.

The fun won't end after the election, and until Putin and his FSB are buried under the Kremlin.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I don’t think people are bringing up third parties because they will get elected, I think they’re bringing up third parties to show that these are not guaranteed, but still potentially obtainable votes, that if you take their demands into account, you will get their votes.

EDIT: again, not American

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Nooo they just dum dummies!

Surely they don't live in completely uncontested districts/states like fucking 84% of Americans.

No talk, no talk!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They just refuse to put the work in and parachute into the race in the last couple months and siphon a bunch of gullible votes off the people with a chance.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'm curious under what definition you think Dr. Cornel West has refused to put the work in?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

How many people is he running down ballot?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's literally a completely new party that just secured ballot access this year.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

And he wasn’t able to get anyone to run down ballot for him?

That isn’t a party, it’s stroking his ego.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Ah yes it didn't emerge fully formed from Zues's forhead therefore it's pointless.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

They just refuse to put the work in and parachute into the race in the last couple months and siphon a bunch of gullible votes off the people with a chance.

This was my point and you just proved it for me, thanks.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

For anyone who honestly believes in third party stuff: try supporting ranked voting at the local and state level. Once we have more ranked voting at local and state levels, it will be easier to push that at the federal level, which is the best way to solve strategic voting problems in presidential elections.

Nobody would support ranked voting for presidential elections if that's the first time they hear about it. But if people use it already in local elections, and see that it works better, then extending it to presidential elections is a logic choice.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (8 children)

Honest question. What do you do for someone who's sole issue right now is to stop the genocide? There's only one candidate going for that afaik, and it's not Harris or Trump.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (19 children)

A few more days. Please, just gotta hold off a week and a half. After that, I can shift gears from "Fuck's sake please just support the non-fascist candidate against the literal fascist" to "These are the problems in this fucking country and they need to be addressed, and fuck Harris if she doesn't"

Just spare us an immediate future of fascism. Buy yourselves, and ourselves, more time to work. Even if you think this is ONLY buying time, buy it. Because things are NOT going to be easier to organize under a fascist regime - and the idea that the more people suffer, the more they're inclined towards your, specific, political views, is just not borne out by reality.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

It's selection bias on their part, they'll point to the fall of the Tsar and say "see, see, revolution comes from oppression!", and ignore what happened to the communists in Germany, lol.

They really have a hard-on for violent revolution, when peaceful revolution may still be an option...

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (14 children)

Hi, I’m bloodfart. You may remember me from such posts as:

“I voted for party for socialism and liberation and you can too!”

And:

“They’re running Claudia de la Cruz on a platform of Palestinian statehood and an end to arms shipments to Israel”.

But today I’m here to talk to you about how psl is eligible for enough electoral votes to win a landslide victory.

You see, people working on behalf of one of the two major parties often deploy the argument that a third party can’t win, so you shouldn’t vote for them. Due to the tireless work of politically active, committed anti genocide Americans just like yourself, psl can get 474 electoral votes this November!

So get out there and vote psl! She can win if you vote for her!

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Lemmy.ml is all about this right now. The idiots... They claim to want things to lean more left, then they help the right with their narrative.

Ever since coming here (Lemmy) I've started to develop a solid bias against the far left. They are defeating their own goals when they do this shit.

For the record, I'm independent but I vote blue because the GOP is insane.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I wouldn’t call ml far left.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (2 children)

if marxist-leninists aren't far left who is?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Anarchists and similar are actually left.

MLs ar largely authoritarian cultists who self-identify as followers of dead white bros from hundreds of years ago. They're not leftists. Many are right-wing "red fash".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

They're all "tankies" to this crowd sadly.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

/clears throat

Anarchists are the Ancaps of Leftism.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago

That’s auth left.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

Bruh. Jill Stein isn’t even on the ballot in my state. She’s got no chance.

Despite my earlier organizing, there are no independents on anything down ballot.

I live in a swing state so, sorry De la Cruz, I can’t vote for ya.

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