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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

I’ll be more shocked if anything comes of it

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I don't understand what's being implied here.

The petition states, "By signing below, I am pledging my support for the First and Second Amendments."

It says nothing about buying votes or pledging to vote for a candidate, ore providing any proof that you voted at all. The only requirement is that you are registered voter in one of a handful of states.

As a registered democrat in PA, what's preventing me from signing the petition and getting some free cash? If I believe that voting for Harris is a vote to support the first and second amendments, which I fully do, what's the problem?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I read elsewhere that the issue was that you had to sign the petition to be eligible to win, and that you had to be a registered voter to sign the petition. So technically it was paying to get you to register. Which is not allowed.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

I’m guessing it will also play into Trump’s voter fraud claims later. Use Musk’s petition as “proof” that votes for him weren’t counted/were converted to Harris/some other nonsense claim because it’s heavily implied if you’ve signed the petition that you would be voting for trump.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (7 children)
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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

Do it! The problem, which you will be helping to solve, is wealth concentration. Move that dough out of muskie's bank account = good.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

His purpose for providing the money is not just for you to sign a partition. It is to buy your favor and join him in voting for Trump. You are foolish if you think otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

to buy your favor and join him in voting for Trump.

Where do you see this?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (4 children)

His entire push is for people to vote for Trump the money and the petition is for you to enter his camp. Stop playing dumb.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You're ignoring my question.

The article, which is quoting someone on twitter, states that what he's doing is illegal because he's offering to buy votes. This is in contrast to what the petition actually states. There is no requirement for you to vote for anyone at all in order to get paid and enter a lottery. That is, unless you can direct me to something that explicitly, in writing, supports your claim.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh my goodness let me break it down for you. It is not just illegal to to pay people to vote it is illegal to pay people to register to vote. He is using a lottery system which pays people money to sign his petition the requirement to sign the petition is you have to be registered to vote. The Petition could say I like eggs. The petition is meaningless. The purpose is to get people to register to vote that are like minded to Elon using the possible payment of large sums of money. "Musk’s sweepstakes-style award is only available for registered swing-state voters who sign his right-wing PAC’s pledge." - https://www.theverge.com/2024/10/20/24274971/elon-musk-1-million-prize-america-pac-petition-voting-presidential-election

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (7 children)

OK.. the exceptionally odd part of your response is that we're commenting on a specific article speaking about this and you've linked to an entirely different web site. Do you work for the verge?

I would like to see some court cases related a requirement to be a registered voter to enter a sweepstakes.

Still, again, my point is regarding what is implied in this article which is that Musk is paying people to vote for Trump. You do agree that this is not the case, correct?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not dumb. It's a legitimate question if we're talking legality.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Hey look, a foreigner actively engaging in voter fraud!

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (4 children)

And Speech is free money. Source: Skyrim

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Cool, so it’s fine if Mark Cuban does the same thing for the Democrats, right?

Right???

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

This is literally happening for Democrats via the CAH ploy, and according to the posts I saw on Lemmy, it was the most "amazing cool as fuck bonkers ass wild in your face suck it Republicans scheme ever thought up by anyone ever on the face of the planet mind explode!"

So......what's the problem?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

CAH also explicitly said that what they were doing should be illegal.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I think that penetrating fruit in a sexual manner should be illegal.

I still do it because it's not.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Of course, since most of the internet can't detect sarcasm, you're getting down voted.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

If "most of the internet" misunderstands you, then you need to work on your communication skills.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

Haha, oh well. As long as a few people see the obvious hypocrisy I’m trying to point out in our system. What does the FEC even do????

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

I see articles like this stating he has donated $0 and doesn't intend to contribute anything. He also calls out Musk for what he is doing.

According to OpenSecrets.org, which tracks campaign financing, Cuban last donated to a candidate in 2002, when he gave $1,000 to Democratic California Congresswoman Zoe Lofgren's campaign.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

~~Idiots~~ Right-wingers will assert that George Soros is, no evidence wanted or needed.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Of course he’s not. It would be election interference if the Democrats did it.

The Republicans, however can ostensibly do whatever the crap they want without repercussions as the FEC looks on with their head all the way up their own sphincter.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It's too fucking bad that the FEC is essentially powerless due to partisan politics.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Republican partisan politics.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Oh, 100% - I should have been clearer that this erosion of enforcement is entirely driven by the GOP and quite intentional.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

Things like this are their goal when they use buzz words like relaxed regulation, "small government", and "free market".

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