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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Put him behind bars for that and I start believing that the government takes this vote seriously.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm going to lower the bar:

If the government issues any sort of indictment in the next 3 weeks, I'll agree that they are taking it seriously. Even without bail.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Also this is just an illegal lottery

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's not actually illegal. He is paying a lottery to people who register to vote. Similarly, Cards Against Humanity is paying people who didn't vote last election to make a voting plan.

It's illegal to pay someone to vote regardless of if it's for a side. Neither instance goes far enough to be considered against the law as written. Cards Against Humanity states that it shouldn't be and it's fucked up that it is.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

You need to really read what CAH says... it's only paying you to apologize, make a plan to vote and post a comment about Trump on social media. Nome of that goes as far as this lottery.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

The best part about this is that unlike a lot of the other illegal shit his PACs are doing, Musk can't separate himself from it and say he wasn't personally involved. He personally handed out the giant check.

If Harris wins, and if her administration actually decides to crack down on this shit, Musk could end up behind bars. I'm not holding my breath, but it's a still a pleasant thought.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Hate that I'm writing something that defends Garland a bit but arresting Musk two weeks before the election could be a huge backfire.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Musk isn't running.... You can't give famous or wealthy supporters legal immunity just because they're famous and wealthy and vocally support one side or the other.

...so yes, you should hate yourself for trying to make that defacto case.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

What a Bunch of nonsense. You'd rather have a hissy fit and turn thenarrative into charging the world's wealthiest man, thus supporting Trump's weaponization of DOJ rhetoric than wait for a couple of weeks. Guess you were never spanked as a child.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

You watch something blatantly illegal and not even in a moral grey area going on and your take away is that stopping it would be wrong?

What are your values?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

My takeaway is doing something about it before the election is probably a mistake. It has to do with reality, not values.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Reality is such a practice encourages Trump and Musk to keep compounding illegal acts to win.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

How you see reality is based on your values.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

maybe they weren't, since not spanking children leads to better outcomes for them. Emotionally and cognitively.

Researchers are also finding that physical punishment is linked to slower cognitive development and adversely affects academic achievement

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3447048/

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

First time in American is it?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

But if he was selling loose cigarettes on an NYC street...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

So something is going to happen to him right? RIGHT?!?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The Supreme Court: “This is fine as long as it remains Republicans only…”

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Elon Musk and promising people money you'll never actually pay out. Name a more iconic duo

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Donald Trump and promising people money you'll never actually pay out.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Merrick Garland & fecklessness?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Remember: the reason Garland got nominated for SCOTUS in the first place was that he was so conservative Obama figured Mitch McConnell couldn't possibly object to him.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Merrick garland was actually recommended by one of the senate GOP members as a "reasonable" choice that Obama would never nominate.

So Obama nominated him to make a point, and the Senate tsk tsked anyway.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

If Mike Lindell is any indicator, maybe this is a good thing.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

... shall be fined not more than $10,000 ...

Pocket change.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Make him pay it for each entrant. It’s probably still pocket change because a hundred billion dollars (or whatever it is now) is effectively infinite money.

Sometimes the depth of the hole we’ve dug ourselves is just astounding.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Donald Trump, such a great candidate that you have to pay people and offer them cash prizes to get them to vote for him...

That's the message here.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (4 children)

This is a case where max jail time is needed. 5 years for each bribe.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Served consecutively, not concurrently

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago
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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Everyone talking about how illegal this is but I doubt it is. It does not say you have a vote a certain way. You just have to be a voter and sign his petition to be illegible.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Thanks. I knew it looked wrong.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

The comment is almost illegible. Funny!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean, I guess I would take a million dollars from a deluded billionaire, but I would still vote for Harris.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

None of the people they are trying to bribe will see money.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Cut out the media advertisers, bribe voters directly. Progress.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

He will claim is was a joke in court.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Though maybe some of the other things Musk was doing were of murky legality, this one is clearly illegal. See 52 U.S.C. 10307(c): “Whoever knowingly or willfully gives false information as to his name, address or period of residence in the voting district for the purpose of establishing his eligibility to register or vote, or conspires with another individual for the purpose of encouraging his false registration to vote or illegal voting, or pays or offers to pay or accepts payment either for registration to vote or for voting shall be fined not more than $10,000 or imprisoned not more than five years, or both…” (Emphasis added.)

I mean, if it’s clearly illegal then can we, you know, apply the law?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What's stopping people from applying to his "lottery" and just not voting Trump?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Apparently nothing. I live in PA and want to sign up, but I really don't want Musk to have my email or phone number or home address.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Understandable. I'd greatly consider it (if I didn't already turn in my mail-in ballot, and he offered to California) but the idea alone that I'd be giving my private info to "I am a massive fascist and enabler and funder of them" just so I can grift a grifter.

But the simple fact that even if I could give them what they demanded for payment, they would probably see a disabled, queer, poor person and go "Oh, well, you're one of them so... Face the wall."

I'd rather be a poverty-trapped queer in a red county as I am now, than sell my morals for money. That's what people with the moral backbone of a chocolate eclair do.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

“Illegal” is just a joke at this point

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Rich people feel like they can do anything they want and usually the law lets them do so. I hope he faces some type of punishment for this.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Putin rubbing his fingers with glee rn. If this doesn't get prosecuted, I know what he'd do.

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