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Put him behind bars for that and I start believing that the government takes this vote seriously.
I'm going to lower the bar:
If the government issues any sort of indictment in the next 3 weeks, I'll agree that they are taking it seriously. Even without bail.
Also this is just an illegal lottery
It's not actually illegal. He is paying a lottery to people who register to vote. Similarly, Cards Against Humanity is paying people who didn't vote last election to make a voting plan.
It's illegal to pay someone to vote regardless of if it's for a side. Neither instance goes far enough to be considered against the law as written. Cards Against Humanity states that it shouldn't be and it's fucked up that it is.
You need to really read what CAH says... it's only paying you to apologize, make a plan to vote and post a comment about Trump on social media. Nome of that goes as far as this lottery.
The best part about this is that unlike a lot of the other illegal shit his PACs are doing, Musk can't separate himself from it and say he wasn't personally involved. He personally handed out the giant check.
If Harris wins, and if her administration actually decides to crack down on this shit, Musk could end up behind bars. I'm not holding my breath, but it's a still a pleasant thought.
Hate that I'm writing something that defends Garland a bit but arresting Musk two weeks before the election could be a huge backfire.
Musk isn't running.... You can't give famous or wealthy supporters legal immunity just because they're famous and wealthy and vocally support one side or the other.
...so yes, you should hate yourself for trying to make that defacto case.
What a Bunch of nonsense. You'd rather have a hissy fit and turn thenarrative into charging the world's wealthiest man, thus supporting Trump's weaponization of DOJ rhetoric than wait for a couple of weeks. Guess you were never spanked as a child.
You watch something blatantly illegal and not even in a moral grey area going on and your take away is that stopping it would be wrong?
What are your values?
My takeaway is doing something about it before the election is probably a mistake. It has to do with reality, not values.
Reality is such a practice encourages Trump and Musk to keep compounding illegal acts to win.
How you see reality is based on your values.
maybe they weren't, since not spanking children leads to better outcomes for them. Emotionally and cognitively.
Researchers are also finding that physical punishment is linked to slower cognitive development and adversely affects academic achievement
First time in American is it?
But if he was selling loose cigarettes on an NYC street...
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So something is going to happen to him right? RIGHT?!?
The Supreme Court: “This is fine as long as it remains Republicans only…”
Elon Musk and promising people money you'll never actually pay out. Name a more iconic duo
Donald Trump and promising people money you'll never actually pay out.
Merrick Garland & fecklessness?
Remember: the reason Garland got nominated for SCOTUS in the first place was that he was so conservative Obama figured Mitch McConnell couldn't possibly object to him.
Merrick garland was actually recommended by one of the senate GOP members as a "reasonable" choice that Obama would never nominate.
So Obama nominated him to make a point, and the Senate tsk tsked anyway.
If Mike Lindell is any indicator, maybe this is a good thing.
... shall be fined not more than $10,000 ...
Pocket change.
Make him pay it for each entrant. It’s probably still pocket change because a hundred billion dollars (or whatever it is now) is effectively infinite money.
Sometimes the depth of the hole we’ve dug ourselves is just astounding.
Donald Trump, such a great candidate that you have to pay people and offer them cash prizes to get them to vote for him...
That's the message here.
This is a case where max jail time is needed. 5 years for each bribe.
Served consecutively, not concurrently
Exactly!
Everyone talking about how illegal this is but I doubt it is. It does not say you have a vote a certain way. You just have to be a voter and sign his petition to be illegible.
Eligible*
Thanks. I knew it looked wrong.
The comment is almost illegible. Funny!
I mean, I guess I would take a million dollars from a deluded billionaire, but I would still vote for Harris.
None of the people they are trying to bribe will see money.
Cut out the media advertisers, bribe voters directly. Progress.
He will claim is was a joke in court.
Though maybe some of the other things Musk was doing were of murky legality, this one is clearly illegal. See 52 U.S.C. 10307(c): “Whoever knowingly or willfully gives false information as to his name, address or period of residence in the voting district for the purpose of establishing his eligibility to register or vote, or conspires with another individual for the purpose of encouraging his false registration to vote or illegal voting, or pays or offers to pay or accepts payment either for registration to vote or for voting shall be fined not more than $10,000 or imprisoned not more than five years, or both…” (Emphasis added.)
I mean, if it’s clearly illegal then can we, you know, apply the law?
What's stopping people from applying to his "lottery" and just not voting Trump?
Apparently nothing. I live in PA and want to sign up, but I really don't want Musk to have my email or phone number or home address.
Understandable. I'd greatly consider it (if I didn't already turn in my mail-in ballot, and he offered to California) but the idea alone that I'd be giving my private info to "I am a massive fascist and enabler and funder of them" just so I can grift a grifter.
But the simple fact that even if I could give them what they demanded for payment, they would probably see a disabled, queer, poor person and go "Oh, well, you're one of them so... Face the wall."
I'd rather be a poverty-trapped queer in a red county as I am now, than sell my morals for money. That's what people with the moral backbone of a chocolate eclair do.
Rich people feel like they can do anything they want and usually the law lets them do so. I hope he faces some type of punishment for this.
Putin rubbing his fingers with glee rn. If this doesn't get prosecuted, I know what he'd do.