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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Is that from Fahrenheit 451 by chance?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago

That was my first thought

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I did Google F451 fireman to make this

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I guess why the bottom right one is holding a book?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

That's Montag

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Like I know firefighter put out fires, but in the US at least departments are often instrumental in making sure city streets are as unsafe as possible so they can drive their enormous trucks down them.

They will even do shit like narc out renters who have too many roommates in single family neighborhoods to city authorities, like they're not cops but some of them try really hard.

Like an order of magnitude more people die in car crashes than house fires, and more often than not fire departments are just responding to some dumbass crashing their car.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (2 children)

That's the Fire Marshall. They are the enforcement arm of fire services. Do you think there is a reason so few people die in fires and maybe its tied to a strong regulatory regime? Like make sure occupancy limits are respected and fire exits aren't blocked?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Do you think there is a reason so few people die in fires and maybe its tied to a strong regulatory regime?

we should make houses safer, AND prevent firefighters from interfering in housefires.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

You know how we make houses safer from fire? Fire Code and the IBC. Know how who enforces Fire Code? Fire Marshall.

And it's not only fires that require emergency vehicle access. If an ambulance is called to your house, the FD needs to know they can actually get it there.

And what if there's a utility outage and an excavator and crane are necessary? What if the street needs repair and a concrete truck has to get access? There's all kinds of reasons large vehicles need to access homes.

And none of that makes the streets less-safe. It increases visibility and gives more maneuvering room in an emergency.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I don't think the FD is responsible for the ambulance getting there. They are often the first responders because the locations are more distributed than ambulance dispatch.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Paramedics generally work for the fire department, and ambulances are dispatched from fire stations. The driver on the ambulance is often just a regular fire department chauffer who drew the short straw and is working ambulance duty that shift.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

I guess it's different depending on location. Here the ambulances are private companies and the FD has nothing to do with them

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

FDs also often run ambulance services and have their own EMTs.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Making sure city streets are wide as a highway lane is integral to fire safety, maybe if they narrowed streets they would be responding to fewer grisly car crashes

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Are you high AF? You start off sane enough, but rapidly scatter into wtf territory in multiple irrational directions at once.

Maybe come back to this thought after a rest. 🤓

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Are you high AF?

I was, this is how I solve problems:

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

Because they're likely a Russian troll

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

In America, the fire department chief (unelected) often sits on the committee to determine what the roads look like, they will often be the ones demanding the roads stay as wide as possible and have zero traffic calming. For fire safety.

My point was that they respond to way more car crashes than house fires, and are in position to influence that, and choose to make things less safe for everyone.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Wider roads make things more safe for everyone. Your 'fuck cars' bullshit is no different than all of the annoying stoners saying weed should be legal in conversations where that point is irrelevant.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Found the guy driving a gender affirming vehicle

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Nope, I drive a small truck because I do a lot of DIY projects and needed something to haul lumber in. It's basically a hatchback with a short bed.

It's comical parking next to gender affirming vehicles because it looks like a toy truck in comparison.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

That's cool, I prefer smaller trucks like that.

Wide roads suck ass for people walking, and are completely inappropriate inside residential areas.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Ewww I would never want fire chiefs elected. Also you're just wrong in basically every assumption you make about how decisions get made.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Assumption? I attend these traffic commission meetings lol

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If your guy feels like showing up to those meetings they are an extremely rare exception. There is no rule that they be present, they just must feel like voicing their opinion.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

They're at pretty much every meeting, if so much as a speed bump comes up it's vetoed

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

I think some people believe we should live in some sort of Athenian democracy where we vote on everything and anything and who has the fucking time?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago

god I hate how few cars are properly firefighter proof

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

They did at one point set houses on fire though. I listened to a podcast on the history of firemen in the US. Mad stuff. Can't remember the name of the podcast though.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago

When you get paid to stop something bad that is happening, prevention is not in your best interest.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

There's a nice scene in Gangs of New York, where rival Fire teams would fight it out whilst robbing the houses they were "saving"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago

Firefighting shenanigans go all the way back to ancient Rome: Marcus Licinius Crassus formed Rome's first fire brigade, which would basically extort the owners of burning buildings to buy them on the cheap. Per Wikipedia:

The first ever Roman fire brigade was created by Crassus. Fires were almost a daily occurrence in Rome, and Crassus took advantage of the fact that Rome had no fire department, by creating his own brigade—500 men strong—which rushed to burning buildings at the first cry of alarm. Upon arriving at the scene, however, the firefighters did nothing while Crassus offered to buy the burning building from the distressed property owner, at a miserable price. If the owner agreed to sell the property, his men would put out the fire; if the owner refused, then they would simply let the structure burn to the ground. After buying many properties this way, he rebuilt them, and often leased the properties to their original owners or new tenants.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

I know in like ancient Rome they'd haggle for payment while the house was burning.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I assume that's a reference to what the book-burners in Fahrenheit 451 are called, and not a weirdly misogynistic gatekeep, lol.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Thought so-- Sorry about all the downvotes :(

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

It's ok. They're just imaginary points. And if people wanna be sensitive about the gender neutrality of a term from the book that the source image is referencing, that's their problem.

I'm all for gender neutrality, but c'mon.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago

It was a pleasure to burn.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

This looks like Fahrenheit 451

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago
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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

There is a grain of truth buried in there

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

I mean forest fire fighters do this sometimes.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

TBF, occasionally sending in a murderous idiot armed with a gun is actually the correct solution to a problem.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

When?
When guerrilla warfare attacking another sovereign nation (so not on home soil)?

No, I don't think there is a problem I want solved that way (the "murderous" part I mean).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

For every problem, there is a sufficiently improbable scenario where it's a benefit.

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