this post was submitted on 18 Oct 2024
708 points (94.6% liked)

Piracy: ꜱᴀɪʟ ᴛʜᴇ ʜɪɢʜ ꜱᴇᴀꜱ

54318 readers
338 users here now

⚓ Dedicated to the discussion of digital piracy, including ethical problems and legal advancements.

Rules • Full Version

1. Posts must be related to the discussion of digital piracy

2. Don't request invites, trade, sell, or self-promote

3. Don't request or link to specific pirated titles, including DMs

4. Don't submit low-quality posts, be entitled, or harass others



Loot, Pillage, & Plunder


💰 Please help cover server costs.

Ko-FiLiberapay


founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 
(page 2) 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 week ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (5 children)

No most millennials are also too lazy because they stopped giving a shit about computers when it stopped being a requirement to use the internet like 10-15 years ago because smartphones.

Most who did haven't in at least a decade, and wouldn't unless you put a gun to their head.

For some reason the vast majority of people seem to just want to ignore the machines that literally run our society, and its fucking maddening.

FFS the amount of people who I work with in IT and even then don't really give a shit about their daily computing is absolutely fucking baffling.

Its really just a smattering of people from all ages who actually know how to use a computer because they're actually interested in doing so.

load more comments (5 replies)
[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Without seeds, torrents become almost useless, and many pirate sites offer rare and hard-to-find movies/animes whose torrent versions never download because their seeds are practically extinct forever. So I don't think this is a weak complaint. If torrents didn't have this weakness I would always choose to use them but...

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The usenet has many treasures

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Usenet is awesome, but the fact that you have to pay for Usenet access defeats the main purpose of pirating for a lot of people.

Don't get me wrong, it is super cheap(60$-100$/year?) and worth it to pay for Usenet from what I understand, but as a poor kid that discovered torrenting out of necessity, paying for Usenet back then would've been out of the question. I imagine a lot of Gen Z kids feel the same about it at this point in their lives.

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago

Some people just stick to the ez pz apps and don't care about their privacy or to understand what they're working with. With modern phones and pc's that treat people like toddlers, a lot of people don't develop skills further than that

[–] odium 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm gen z born in the early 200xs and I torrent (legal Linux ISOs ofc)

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How else are you going to get your hands on the latest build of Hannah Montana Linux?

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Idk, being born in the early 2000s didn't make torrenting any harder. Dare I say, it was the opposite: in the 10s, when I got into all this this, there already was a bunch of well-established trackers with tons of content one could use without fear of downloading a piece of malware instead of a new shiny game, for example.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Honestly as a German, torrenting seems to be way too risky. Internet providers will immediately cave when they are contacted about an IP adress they control and there are multiple law firms whose only business model seems to be sending out c&d letters.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago

Hats off for our poor German friends. It's definitely not easy over there, but if you do the private torrent tracker + VPN combo, you can be relatively safe.

Rightsholders have seeders sitting in public torrents to grab IPs to sue about. Private trackers are essentially a "club" that only invites known users, (friends of friends) and as such, fewer (not zero) rightsholders are able to join, and as such, fewer instances of being referred to a lawfirm simply because there isn't anyone in the swarm who is a rightsholder who only wants your IP... because they don't invite those kind of people most of the time.

Rightsholders like how hanging fruit like public torrents. Private trackers help take a lot of the stress away.

However, I don't know how it works in Germany so maybe rightsholders over there are more zealous.

load more comments (5 replies)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Gen X: Oh, internet eh? So we don't need to keep copying umpteenth generation video cassettes of that dodgy pirate movie any more.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago

Elder Gen-X: "I spent all weekend making this mix tape off of songs on the radio. I even got London Calling without the DJ!"

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (3 children)

If you had real shitty internet back in the day (read 56k modem) and you liked to play russian roulette you would dump satellite traffic with a skystar2 DVB-S card. You never knew what you'd get realistically, found some true gems underneath mountains of coal in the day of (still) unfiltered internet.

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

Boy, I remember how desperate all of Germany was when kino.to went down. It took at least a week until everyone found an alternative!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

so i do torrent stuff when i want to keep it, but the vast majoriy of my media i just stream from whatever shady site i happen to find it on first. it’s too quick and easy.

protip if you ever have trouble finding anything, just use yandex. russia doesn’t give a SHIT about copyright violations or DMCA complaints.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (9 children)
[–] oscar 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)
load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (8 replies)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The switch from using shit like Napster/LimeWire/eDonkey/etc to BitTorrent was fairly easy. It was the lack of the torrent app itself not having a file search in it that made things feel like they went backwards.

Before Napster and the rest, you'd do a web search for "warez" and sift through shady sites to find a working download link. After Napster, you'd just search for what you want in the app. I know there are torrent apps that do this now, but I don't know how wide of a reach they actually have. I still just go to a tracker's website and find things to magnet link.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] JackbyDev 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How could I possibly know a streaming site is illegal?

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments
view more: ‹ prev next ›