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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Never really liked this argument, since it's not really a contemporary political movement where you just read the policy and go "yup that sounds good", it's more akin to a cult with a large indoctrination campaign.

You have alternative news floating around on the same platforms as real ones, you're told to not believe the "other side" as they're all in league with one another and always lie, you can have coworkers or your community reinforce these things making it very hard to escape especially if you've been a part of it for years. The current 'liberal politics' and the living situation doesn't help either too and does contribute to the general stress that makes people fall down these rabbitholes.

Granted, people who have a lot to benefit from MAGA and are acting as influencers for the movement should be rightfully hated, but not really regular people. I do believe that a lot of people who currently are going to (begrudgingly) vote for democrats could definitely be part of the MAGA cult given different environment (such as work, living area or community they're part of).

Point is, hate the movement, not the people. While it's very difficult, it's possible to deradicalize someone and vilification is not really going to help with that.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 hour ago

i think what you are saying is the thing op in the screenshot also belives in originally. but after doorknocks after doorknocks talking to many people she changed her minds.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 hours ago

I mean outside of the racism, I can see this being applied to liberals too

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

The moment you understand that MAGA is the party of hate is the moment you understand this election. It explains both Islamic and Latino support for Republicans. They were betrayed by Democrats, and are willing to let the rest of us hang for it. I hope selling out for the center Republicans was worth destroying the demographic coalition.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

It's the dixiecrats after we took the one thing they loved: Jim Crow and their ability to be superior to anyone who isn't white.

We even dared to elect a black person president over them, they will NEVER forgive us for that, it went against everything they believe in.

You don't understand, to them this is justice for our unimaginable crimes against them, we took the only thing they had in life.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 hours ago

Would be kinda funny to double down and elect a black woman next. Bet they would just love that.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Yes that explains the South and the Aryan Nations in the NW. They were a given in this scenario. I have plenty of experience and a little too much understanding of both.

Party of Hate. For them it's racial, religious, and cultural.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

dumb people shouldn't participate in society. no one is ever going to legislate that. it's up to us to make sure they don't.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 hours ago

Define dumb, otherwise I'll start by saying it's the people who don't capitalize words

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 hours ago

There isn't really agreement on who is too shitty to "participate in society", whatever that means. And if you build a mechanism to exclude people, assholes will use it for evil.

But like if I had a magic wand I would remove all republicans from power. They make it easy by self identifying as shitheads.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

gang i think some percentage of the FREE CITIZENS OF THE COLONIAL SLAVERY EMPIRE might be violently bigoted

when they were knocking doors did they check with anybody who the slave empire has imprisoned or any of the folks that don't have doors

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

they are selfish.

That's where all of those symptoms stem from.

selfish greed.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Lots of them are, but it's stupid comments like this which make me shake my head. The left will lose 2024 with their fake moral superiority and fail to understand what happened.

Again.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

get your maga out of here.

*The left will lose 2024 with their fake moral superiority..."

it is not a fake moral superiority, the left has a practical moral superiority demonstrated by material policy that positively affects the lives of people.

The left beat you in 2020 because of their tangible moral superiority by providing civil protections and material assets for the rights of the electorate.

conservatives are legally trying and succeeding in stealing the rights, liberties and property of Americans.

Americans don't like that, and voted to the left.

they're fighting back by prosecuting and removing the selfish conservatives who are harming people, and are creating laws and funds protecting everyone,

civil rights are not a "fake" moral superiority, they are a tangible moral superiority effected through practical, respectful policy.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 33 minutes ago (1 children)

The smug feeling of moral superiority and the continuous willingness to correct the other's behaviour is THE reason why people can't stand "left/wokism/whatever". Continously pointing out on fake "offensive words" just to show off how morally superior they are.

That how it looks from outside.

(For context i am not American and don't guve a fuck about orange man neither for so called "christian values" so don't try to paint me as a conservative MAGA supporter.)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 22 minutes ago

"moral superiority and the continuous willingness to correct the other's behaviour"

it is tangible practical moral superiority coming from the protection and support of civil rights and liberty.

rather than taking away employee rights, the left is giving employees rights.

rather than taking away minority rights, the left is legally protecting minority rights.

those are not imaginary feelings, those are practical and effective policies.

"The smug feeling of moral superiority and the continuous willingness to correct the other's behaviour is THE reason why people can't stand "left/wokism/whatever". Continously pointing out on fake "offensive words" just to show off how morally superior they are. "

this is largely your imagination and pointed conservative media and a poor excuse for selfish people to continue abusing vulnerable people for their own gain.

offensive words are not fake, and there's nothing wrong with being considerate toward everyone.

the fact that you don't understand haven't considered the difference between protected civil liberties and imaginary fake word hunts from the left (that are actually perpetrated by conservatives banning books from libraries) demonstrates exactly how successful the conservative media you consume is.

consider what you're saying, consider the information around you.

anybody accusing the left of instigating moral panics while the right is literally banning books in libraries over words that they don't like or understand clearly doesn't have even the most tenuous comprehension of what is really happening.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 hours ago

The oldest human need politicians learned to exploit since before villages became a thing, I think.

'Apes together strong' was a message from nerds, not politicians, imo.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

A lot of them feel betrayed/wronged by the system, or by lleft leaning/progressive politics.

That's why they don't mind Trump's wrongdoings. They see things like his felony mugshot and think "he's been betrayed and attacked by the system just like me!"...

...a lot of it is emotional for them, and it's a difficult mindset they're unlikely to leave behind.

Still at least it's a better ratio than in places like Israel, where the vast majority of the population are far-right (many of whom are conspiracy theory inclined, particularly when it comes to the assassination of their former PM Yitzhak Rabin).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 hours ago

That scene gets more and more perfect every year. Tho the worst morons dont actually work or live on the land, they live in the suburbs and drive around in their monster trucks that have never been off road or hauled jack shit in the beds

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

I am so, so glad Democrats have finally woken up to the fact that Republicans are not just misinformed Democrats. There's no amount of facts we can throw at them to make them stop being terrible people. They're not going to suddenly go "oh my God, I was wrong!" This is who they are.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 hours ago

They're dixiecrats, they used to be the worst part of the democrats before LBJ dared to sign civil rights, an unforgivable sin.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 hours ago

A basketful of deplorables, as it were.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

My take is that with Harris courting endorsements from many formerly rank-and-file Republicans, this drives the point home. If anybody is still confused that Trump's party is VERY different from what the Republican Party used to be, the Cheney's endorsing her should settle that. Anybody still unconvinced is wilfully ignorant at minimum.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 hours ago

If anybody is still confused that Trump's party is VERY different from what the Republican Party used to be, the Cheney's endorsing her should settle that.

And then you have the braindead .MLs who argue that awful people supporting the normal candidate over the fascist means we really need to rethink our support for the normal candidate 🙄

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I've gotten a disturbing number of messages on grindr from men that are hard core right wing, yet are on a gay dating app. The level of hate, ignorance, and cognitive dissonance is unprecedented. And it's all fueled by highly addictive apps, and pumped at unimaginable scales thanks to AI.

I hate to say it, but I think this really is the end.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 hours ago

nah. at any given time, we (the good guys) can easily defeat the bad guys. it's pretty fucking simple. you just have to organize, understand the problem, and be willing to think outside the box.

i think we've just been using the wrong tools. i think all we really need is encrypted messaging and [redacted].

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

I thought this was always obvious. His whole appeal was 'he says it like it is' and 'he's brave enough to say what we're all thinking'.

That's why scandals didn't affect him, he never pretended to be virtuous like most of the other Republicans do.

A third of people in any society have authoritarian tendencies and will vote for the strong man 'that will set everything straight', and it's always a failure of mainstream politicians that allows these people to get into power (either by not motivating the other 70% to vote for their project, being too divided, or by going into a coalition with that party).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Details are confusing. These people like "I'll fix all your problems" with no actual substance, and then when their problems are not solved, they like hearing "it's the ~~Jews~~ Immigrants fault".

Solutions are not even desired by these people, just a scapegoat for all their woes.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 hours ago

Yeah, it's not about solutions. It's about punishing the 'other'. Deflecting from the actual source of everyone's economical backsliding (the billionaires skimming money off every part of economic activity).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 hours ago

He really is an accurate representative for his base: the worst scum sucking garbage alive.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Many of them started in camp 1 and entered camp 2.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

my aunt and uncle were trump haters in the 2016 primaries. but of course they voted for him because Hillary is literally the devil, and once he won they were all in.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 hours ago

A lot of conservatives are authoritarians that value group cohesion above most everything else. Going against the group feels bad in a deep way, I think, so all sorts of justifications will be made to stay with the group.

Honestly, as far as I'm concerned that's a form of stupid. Kind of funny given the boomer cliche of "If your friends jumped off a bridge, would you jump off too?". It turns out yes, a lot of people would.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 hours ago

I need to ask my parents, cuz last I heard around June my dad had snapped out enough to at least to say he was considering not voting for the first time ever in a national election. There's an ironic push for ranked choice style options moving forward now thanks to our state Republicans trying to revert back to caucuses and pissing a bunch of constituents off by having us vote to ban other options

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