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Samsung is working on a new AI experience for its devices that will help you use your phone without ever accessing the Settings menu.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

clickbait article title alert.

They never state they are wanting to remove the settings window, just that they seem to be working on an AI that can suggest changes to the phone based off your usage. honestly if it worked it might help, it already does a pretty "ok" job at noticing what apps need to be deep seeped or removing perms from apps that I don't use and removing apps that I haven't used in ages.

I would be against removing the settings menu but, this AI might not be that bad if it's just being subsidized alongside it and not replacing it. As long as it offers and just doesn't automatically change it

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 hours ago

The rest of us want future articles to have none of whatever wanker came up with that clickbait-ass headline.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I hate Samsung and ai in general but this is such a dishonest click bait title. From what I read, they are working on an ai feature which can change some settings dynamically based on usage. I don't see a need for it but as long is not forced on everyone, I don't mind it too much. I don't see any mention that this will completely replace settings menu either. Speculation is fine but mark it as such.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 hours ago

And that's how they get clicks. And now you're talking about it. And me. So it's working

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago

They got rid of the headphones jack so I didn't buy one. Now this???? WTF! Why don't they just smear human poop on the phone before shipping? That would be way easier on the users. You just wash it for a few hours upon opening the baggie. Easy.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 14 hours ago

That's a good way to make people stop buying your phones.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

Gross, awful, terrible. Buuuuuut....

Hard to swallow pill: This will probably get tweaked and eventually be very successful. Most people do not like or know how to mess with settings on their phones. You, on this website, are probably an exception but deep inside you know that. How many friends and family members have you had to explain how to change something on their phones? How many have you noticed that NEED to change something on their phones but didn't even know it, much less think to ask? Now think of all the people whose phones you've never even seen.

Of course I'd love to see it go the way of touchscreens in cars where consumers reject it, but I just don't see it. Assuming they can get it to where it does the 5 or 10 tasks the average user would want to do, this will probably be the new norm moving foward. Don't believe me? Look at modern macs or windows and how many settings they hide.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Did consumers actually reject touch screens in cars? Like android auto and Apple CarPlay are pretty popular in the US

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 14 hours ago

This is a non-article.

They're not just going to delete the settings menu.

They're trying to improve the UX the same way they've been doing since the first phone. Improve settings, make some predictive depending on your usage. Not a big deal.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago

what could go wrong with samsung changing your settings for you

[–] [email protected] 136 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Samsung can go fuck themselves when i cant change what my phone does I'll just use my fucking steam deck as phone.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Yeah honestly i have previously considered just taping a raspberry pi to a portable touch screen and a powerbank and use that instead of a phone with how shitty phones are getting. Fairphone + Calyx is what stopped me from going down that route tho.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I don't want Bixby on my phone. That's a start.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago

Bixby still alive? I haven't heard about in this AI swarm and assumed Samsung killed it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

I have a button on my phone that has one and only function - to piss me off.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 17 hours ago

There are several apps for reprogramming that button to be useful, both on and off the play store

[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Can you not reprogram it to do something else? I could do it with my old S10e, Fold 3 and now Fold 6.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

It appears I can. Honestly, I try to have as few apps as possible and I don't accidentally press it often enough to do anything about it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

Oh I just map it to the power button which feels more intuitive anyways since that's how most other phones have it set up.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

"Oh cool what are they thinking of?"

Samsung is working on a new AI experience

Fuck...

I was thinking that every app would have deeper settings embedded (which seems worse) but I guess the idea here is to bake settings into the OS so only AI can access them. Would this allow for a lot more settings or a lot more nuanced settings?

Gut reaction to AI in 2024 is very bad but I guess a part of me is still curious what they are thinking of doing here.

This is also interesting because like it or not these companies already have a ton of knowledge about you and how you use your device and this may be a way for that data to be served to us in a useful way. I'd prefer they didn't have the data in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Frustratingly, every second they save us is counterbalanced by a 30 second ad or some other negative. I'm planning for a potential future where I might be using a dumb phone to avoid what they're putting together.

I too am curious, morbidly so.

[–] [email protected] 108 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (10 children)

According to ET News, the company plans to implement an AI feature on its devices “that can predict what consumers want in advance by improving the performance of ‘touch points’ such as keyboard and camera.”

Every one of the 'features' results in the exact opposite of what I want the thing to do. I have become a grumpy old man yelling "Stop fucking helping!" at hardware and software that tries to be 'intuitive'.

Samsung devices already let you change various settings without opening the Settings menu using Bixby. However, this implementation requires users to trigger Bixby and issue a voice command. In contrast, the AI-powered solution could automatically change settings based on usage patterns.

I want it to be consistent dammit!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 21 hours ago

User, I noticed you weren't sharing telemetry data, location data,and all your photos with Samsung. I corrected that for you and locked the settings....you're welcome.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

I fully hear you and agree.

Every 5 days there's a software update, for something that just changes one or two things slightly - but rarely if ever is it an improvement.

Oh, you want to do this simple thing you were able to easily do 3 days ago?

Now you have to change 4 nondescript settings, use 3 separate hotkey commands, watch a YouTube video, and troubleshoot for hours to get a once basic function to preform correctly.

I'd bet that the AI system will be used exclusively to identify + paywall things you'll want/need to use your phone.

seems like you want volume control, based on your history you want 1% volume. Subscribe to" basic functions" package to unlock a volume option. Upgrade to "basic functions premium" for up to 5 volume adjustments a week!

Still not enough AI control? The "basic functions unlimited" fully unlocks both volume buttons and for a limited time unlocks the spacebar for 5 minutes an hour from midnight to 6am!

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I want it to be consistent dammit!

YES.

In tech terms, "intelligent" or "smart" usually means inconsistent and unpredictable. It means I need to do extra work to verify that the computer didn't "helpfully" do something I never told it to do.

I understand autocorrect on phones, because phone keyboards suck very hard. I am still shocked that both Apple and Microsoft have decided to enable it by default on desktops and laptops with full keyboards. No, Apple, believe it or not, the username field in web sites is not supposed to have a capitalized first letter. If I wanted that, I have three whole keys on my keyboard that I could have used to do that. STFU and let me do my own typing. (Why usernames are case-sensitive in certain places is a whole other matter, one that's far outside my control.)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 20 hours ago

It ~~usually~~ always means "stupid".

FTFY. AI has become such a buzzword that companies are desperate to throw as much money as they can at the concept, no matter how wildly misplaced their understandings or hopes are.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 16 hours ago

I can see this being useful if executed well and if it just looks for specific settings. I often can't find certain settings and google what the name is (first Android phone). I think it has potential when used as a sort of smart fuzzy finder.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 day ago

Yeah, no thanks.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 21 hours ago

The day they roll out this update is the day I stop updating my Samsung phone.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 23 hours ago

God please kill me.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

So if it misconfigures shit which it will 100% do will Samsung be liable for legal claims?

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 day ago

No. Just....no.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

What is the best Android phone manufacturer after we count out Samsung?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 14 hours ago

Motorola (technically owned by Lenovo now, but even some of the Lenovo phones are great).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 16 hours ago

Depends what you mean be best. I choose FairPhone

[–] [email protected] 7 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Yes, obviously, I could Google this, but I'm looking for real peoples' opinions. I've owned OnePlus and LG android phones previously to my current Samsung. I loved my OnePlus phones, but my current provider doesn't support them.

Edit: LOL. I just realized you were suggesting Google as an android phone manufacturer.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

Edit: LOL. I just realized you were suggesting Google as an android phone manufacturer.

Indeed. Get a pixel. Load some other de-googled OS onto it like GrapheneOS.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Unfortunately using a custom OS like GrapheneOS or LineageOS breaks Play Integrity API checks, and some important apps like banking apps use that.

Fuck Google for closing Android.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Every bank installed on my phone hasn't had a problem. Chase, Navy Fed, and USAA for those who would ask.

I guess to each their own.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 31 minutes ago

American banks?

In Finland the bank apps I have used use either SafetyNet or Play Integrity APIs.

And plenty of random other apps break for LineageOS or rooting as well.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago

Awful hardware and value proposition in my area. I still had to get one because no one else let you degoogle on day 1 and grapheneos is excellent. It's insane I had to buy a google phone to get away from google.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 18 hours ago

Can confirm that Graphene is easy as hell to get up and running and is an excellent OS.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've never EVER encountered a predictive system that is more of a help than a hindrance

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