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Gurl please. There's a million "Trump is bad" articles. Why would I post duplicates?
Equal level of scrutiny > equal number of negative posts
Maybe there are a million "trump is bad" articles because there are a million unique reasons that trump is bad. We don't need a million "Harris is bad" articles to make it fair, we need legitimate comparison on equal ground. Nobody is insisting that you repost what's already been said, but nobody needs to hear "Harris is also bad" when the only reasonable goal of such a thing is to draw a false equivalency in order to either encourage people that voting for trump isn't actually all that bad, or discourage barely-motivated Harris voters from actually getting up off their asses to vote for her.
To be clear, Harris isn't perfect, but she's proven to be competent and capable of growth as a human being who is engaging in a similar human experience as other people and understands the actual struggles we endure, their causes, and has proposed some solutions. The other fucking guy is airing out personal grievances, bitching about consequences for his actions, and spreading blatantly racist lies about immigrants which would make Hitler himself blush.
If anyone is legit not going to vote because of a negative news article posted by a stranger online... they're dumb AF.
Welcome to America, where people think that Fox News is a legitimate news source because "'news' is right there in the name!"
Oh, okay, glad all we needed was the smart votes and the votes from the deeply politically engaged.
It reminds me of other instances of left purity, where somehow large swathes of voters don't count because they're too dirty, or something.
You've been here a while and most have told you about how it looks time and time again.
Either you're the living embodiment of the Skinner "No, it's the children who are the problem" meme or you're a "hidden" Trumpet/Russian asset/Bot
And I keep saying I'm far left.
Then why are you so hell bent on helping Trump?
I see we have gone with option a, living embodiment of the Skinner meme.
I'm not a Democrat I'm not a Republican. It's the Democrats that are starting to court Republicans even praising war criminal Cheney. Politicians should constantly be critiqued. Hold their feet to the fire.
That’s what you fucks said about Clinton and now we have a tilted supreme court and two dead women and facing life in prison for miscarriages. Grow the fuck up.
Maybe Hillary should have actually campaigned harder and earned more votes? Blame the candidate not the voters.
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You:
Politicians should constantly be critiqued. Hold their feet to the fire.
Also you:
Gurl please. There's a million "Trump is bad" articles. Why would I post duplicates?
I've posted negative articles and memes of Trump many times. You see what you want to see.
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That's a fine thing to say, but nobody believes you because of inconsistencies in your reasoning.
Unfortunately Americans are dumb af
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Nice to know we're not developing a hivemind like on Reddit /s
Every chamber will form an echo. It's how humans are hardwired—to seek out community and belonging.
Yep, and it's why we're never going interstellar. Our tribes are too small.
We need to send all the billionaires and politicians to space to experience the Overview Effect so they can realize we need to collaborate and stop writing about our slight differences.
I had to read this twice to confirm, but it sounds like you’re intending to bring them back from space with this plan?
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Sounds like good news for the galaxy
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I don't see why that's a problem. This platform not gonna move vote as much as you like to believe, and reading news get you informed on the ups and downs. It's not like the ml/grad folks that only post bad thing about the west and only good thing about china/russia, i did see ozma post a wide variety of stuff.
This platform not gonna move vote as much as you like to believe,
Man, none of us are gonna move serious numbers of votes. Yet elections are decided by millions of people who are engaging in civic behavior in the election and the lead-up to the election, every instance being inconsequential individually, but in aggregate deciding the future of nations.
"It's too small, it doesn't matter" is one of the ways the GOP pushes out consistent wins while the Dems flounder despite nearly every policy, some of moderate Dems and some of progressive Dems, being overwhelmingly popular in this fucking country. The GOP lacks popular policy positions, and yet because they continuously and consistently push their electoral viewpoints at EVERY turn, not just when it's 'big', they get electorally rewarded. They treat civic duty like a religious duty, and yet I have to limp my ass and beg people door to door just to fucking vote against fascism.
... alright, I've never begged. My anxiety is bad enough that I keep things polite. But the point stands.
I know the anxiety is high in US, and while the rhetoric works in real life, i doubt it did anything in lemmy, a platform of 50k user that mostly made up their mind, to the point they will call any dissenting voice as people against them. While it makes sense because of how notorious the reds are, from the outside it really looks pretty much like idolising a party not dissimilar to the reds. I mean, you guys can't just accusing republican for idolising trump while at the same time idolising harris, that's just hypocrisy.
Disclaimer, i'm not from the US so i can't do much, but i did went through the same thing for the past two elections of my country, to the point the party i voted for is now working together with the one we worked hard to defeat two elections ago. Try give Malaysia election 2018/2022 a read, it's insane.
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Very few people idolize Harris. Hell, Harris is not particularly popular even within the Democratic Party. The issue is that banging the drum on all the reasons not to vote for her two weeks before it's decided whether we're going under a literal fascist regime, or getting another four years of time to unfuck as much as we can, is a strategically stupid decision from any actor who doesn't want fascism. Yes, Harris is a moderate who supports all the long-standing fuckwaddery of US foreign and domestic policy. No, that's not particularly relevant ten metaphorical minutes before an election with a candidate who supports all the long-standing fuckwaddery of US foreign and domestic policy getting much worse as a core ideological aim.
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The idolization makes it ridiculous, but the essential difference between the two parties isn't that "GOP idolizes its candidate while We, The Clear-Sighted, do not!", the essential difference is "The GOP has openly announced that it's going for a fascist regime, and the Dems don't want that." If someone were insane enough to start plastering Harris's head on Rambo Trump style, man, it'd be worthy of mockery, but even if it was widespread, it wouldn't change that one party is essential to support in this election over the other. We want another four years of not-fascism so we can reinforce and build new structures against fascism. Maybe even a better world, though for the next few weeks I'm focused on not getting sent to a concentration camp.
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If you think that a platform of 50k isn't enough to be worth talking to, I dread to consider what you think of attending town halls.
If you think that a platform of 50k isn't enough to be worth talking to, I dread to consider what you think of attending town halls.
Look, i know it's a desperate time now, but to take the 50k in lemmy as undecided rather than an echo chamber is another level of desperate. Like, come on man.
You think the population in a town hall is mostly undecided? I assure you, it's not.
We do what we do in the hopes that one or two votes might come out of it. That's all we can do. And there sure as shit are plenty of people here who are on the fence about voting, or voting Dem.
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I can never tell if you people are in bad faith or just legitimately so detached from a realistic view of politics that that sounds profound to you.
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I have to limp my ass and beg people door to door just to fucking vote against fascism.
Rather than beg your party to adopt the policies all the data shows would actually win then this election?
What on earth makes you think the best 'evelenth hour' strategy is to try and persuade thousands of people to vote, but that it's apparently "too late" to persuade a single executive to change one policy?
I can never tell if you people are in bad faith or just legitimately so detached from a realistic view of politics that that sounds profound to you.
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Um, out of interest I went through their posts of the last week or so. Three were critical of trump, one was critical of biden
Perhaps a bit of cognitive bias going on there?
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So the main reason to vote for her is "I am not Trump". Is that it? I don't think that sound that good.
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Yes, it's important to stop Trump. But don't fool yourself into thinking that Harris has your best interests at heart. She sees the people as a tool she must convince to get into a position of power. Not as someone who she should serve.
I won't argue over whether she does have my best interests at heart. It. Does. Not. Matter.
I don't want to marry her, I want her to keep Trump out of office - and right now, she is the only one who can.
Fun fact: Most exterminators don't have your best interest in mind - they just want to make a living. Yet, they do keep the bedbugs away, so it's all good.
It seems you didn't read my first sentence. OP implied that Harris will do positive things. She will not. She is nothing more than the lesser evil.
I have read all the sentences, and I agree with the first one.
What I felt needed a little commentary was the rest. See, minds more impressionable than yours and mine may come to the conclusion that voting is pointless if you can only vote for the lesser evil.
I don't know whether she is better than you think she is - my point was that it doesn't matter, and that speculating, postulating and pontificating about how she may not be as good as we want her to be just turns people off of voting. Which would be bad.
That was my whole point.
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Decades of civil service would beg to differ. Of course all politicians in a democracy need to sway voters to vote for them, but it's absurdly cynical to believe that no politician in any democracy ever has given any fucks about the well-being of their constituents. Unless you're saying that this is something mostly unique to her, which is equally silly. I have my doubts about how much of her campaign promises can actually be delivered on, mostly due to congressional Republicans who will definitely stonewall everything possible, but it's outrageous to claim without any supporting evidence that Harris is uninterested in serving the people when she's already been doing so for her entire career.
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Harris could sit in the Oval Office and spin around in her chair for four years and still be an immeasurably better president than Trump.
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Very true, but much more difficult because Harris actually has to commit to something positive. It's easier for the astroturfers to just throw dirt at Trump.
Trump deserves all the dirt thrown at him.
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Fun Fact: Despite near unanimous claims by voters to the contrary, the data bears out that negative campaigning is far more productive than espousing the positives of your own candidate.
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