this post was submitted on 12 Oct 2024
640 points (98.5% liked)

News

23376 readers
1978 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

I admit I do love it when Trump gets trolled.

(Weirdly, the post title didn't match the headline in the actual link, but the version Lemmy let me click on to make the title works better anyway.)

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 136 points 1 month ago (6 children)

He will not feel any pressure to release his. He won't do it. Everyone knows he won't.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 month ago (3 children)

But his repeated bullshit excuses will be fun to watch.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This right here is the problem, why he gets favorable treatment by the media, why he's the Republican figurehead. He's "fun to watch".

Here's what will happen: Harris will release her clean bill of health, he'll deny their veracity, he may then make an unsubstantiated boast about his own health, he may then also call into question the qualifications of Harris' doctor, he may then close with some sort of jingoistic non sequitur, or some nugget of misogyny. He will do these things in an almost robotically simplified way, that is at once instantly digestible and yet difficult to directly quote without editing. If anything he says proves the least bit problematic, Steven Cheung will claim that this editing proves malicious intent by the media, and that Trump was unfairly taken out of context. Meanwhile his thralls will either ignore the whole interval, or accept Cheung's version of events and redouble their support of a man who is not only unqualified, but it's actively a national liability. This will register surprise, shock, anger, any number of strong emotions, and viewership/readership will keep coming back, generating impressions and ad revenue, desperate for the new episode, to see what happens next, as if it were a show on HBO and not real life.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He's "fun to watch" when he's being a dipshit. Not when he's being a Nazi.

But I would like to borrow your crystal ball for next week's Lotto numbers please.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Even when he's "a dipshit", the attention he garners legitamizes him as a candidate. Attention is the whole game. The Michael Jordan of "no bad publicity." The entertainment you describe is just a different form of rubbernecking. And Trump attracts droves by regularly providing a new car accident to gawk at; and doing so on a fairly steady, news cycle friendly basis.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (11 children)

You can't legitimize a legitimate candidate any more than he's already been legitimized.

Expecting people to never talk about one of the two people who have a chance at being president next year within a month of election day is a bit silly.

load more comments (11 replies)
[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But how little his fans care that he's full of bullshit will be terrifying to watch.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

His fans are, at most, 30% of the country. It's the rest of the voters I worry about.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

They weren't that fun the first time.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I guess I take my humor out of this election where I can.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I can’t think of many things I find more awful than listening to that man speak. My obstructive sleep apnea, maybe. Maybe.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"As the healthiest person… as the healthiest American… there is no one healthier than me… as the healthiest, there is no need to release these… my medical records are stellar… so perfect. I'm great. These records are so great, there you have it. I'm perfectly… yes… perfectly healthy." - Trump

Well, I tried. I feel that it lacks some attacks to their opponent, but I can't dumb myself down enough to do more than that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Here I'll help

"The best records... great memory.. the best... doctors claim to not have seen a memory like mine... beyond measure... they can't even measure it ladies and gentlemen.. even better than my opponent Sleepy Joe... I defeated Joe in 2020... complete landslide... I'll beat him in 2024."

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

still too coherent

"You know they asked me to— my medical records... they asked for them. The medical records. Can you believe this? The doctors, and believe me, I know doctors — they used to have the cures, were allowed to, you know, they just drank it. You could, any street corner, with malt, just go in. Hello Bob, you know. Beautiful. Believe me, they'd say Mr President, Sir, Mr President, you have the best blood pressure. So strong, beautiful, Mr President but we've been piled on with Iran. They don't allow the helicopters any more, and the coats? You can't. Any day, they said, any day you can have it for free, and I was smart, I got the 5 cents back. That's how they get you. But with Iran. So now the doctors say there's no need to have blood pressure any more. They said they never need to check again. And that's why you can't any more. Which is good. You know, not the Iran thing, that's sad."

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

Didn't he have a weirdo doctor release a letter in 2020 saying he was in the best form ever?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Seriously... It's like these people never learn. He's an obstinate child and will never do what he doesn't want to do unless compelled by the courts.

...and that's actually a thing that his cult loves.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

People are saying.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Trump will just call it fake news and then say his doctors said he is the best health anyone has ever seen

And they'll believe it because it's a cult

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

his medical records are under audit

[–] Zink 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The FDA can’t believe what they’re seeing. They say mister President, we’ve never seen anything as great as your health all over. We need to study this to help America!

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ugh I'm afraid I'd catch something from Trump's medical records.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You'll be okay. He told Howard Stern that surviving the 70s without an STD was his "personal Vietnam" (so he didn't need to actually go there) and also, as the owner of a chiweenie*, I can tell you that (thankfully) stupid is not contagious.

*The parts of that page that says they're intelligent and easy to train are lies.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

stupid may not spread across species very easily, but it is highly contagious between humans.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

And dogs. Stupid humans make their regular dogs stupid too. (Some dogs aren't blessed with much of that clever wild brain to begin with, I know. I like chocolate labs anyway.)

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Then again, he submitted a letter from ‘his doctor’ in 2016 that said he tested positive for everything, so it may be best to steer clear.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Would they settle for a letter from a weirdo saying he's the bigliest, healthliest man to ever president?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's sort of what he did while president. But Trump's pill slinger, who was likely Trump's contact to the Oath Keepers, got himself elected to Congress. And boy has he been a shitbag ever since. Not that he wasn't a shitbag before as well.

But sure, there's probably another Doctor Nick level jackass out there who will vouch for Trump.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You could release a doctor's report saying Trump is going to die in 6 months and his plan is to install an unelected leader when he dies and his supporters would just cheer it

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (16 children)

If he only needed his supporters to win, he would have won in 2020. I have no idea why people aren't aware of that now.

load more comments (16 replies)
[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

I mean, the last time he did they were obviously false. He'll just do the same this time. No way he doesn't take meds for cholesterol, heart disease, or any of the other conditions that are extremely common with his age and diet.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, can’t wait to see what STDs the orange man has.

[–] Tja 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You even heard of Pokémon?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The Harris campaign just released this in response to his visit to Detroit. It's awesome.

https://youtu.be/BPgQp2VuZwQ?si=aQC1bWufO53ER49B

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

Nice. They released a video of Trump trying to back out of the debate with her with clucking chicken noises. And suddenly he agreed to the debate. And then he was trolled during the debate and went nuts. And people here say trolling him has no effect.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This has been tried many times before unfortunately. He's not going to release his medical information. The fact that it would have his actual height alone is enough reason for the narcissist to literally die before letting it come out.

So much of the authoritarian strong man mystique is the projection of strength and virility. One of the few things that could actually weaken his control over his supporters would be a medical report saying he's an average height male that is almost 80 and in below average health.

If that somehow came out without his permission, he, his campaign, and his most loyal operatives would invest tremendous effort in burying, denying, and obfuscating those facts. His followers would latch onto anything that would allow them to comfortably deny that.

Beyond the strong man thing, there is also an entire cohort of aging, white boomer men that have created a belief in their own worth, health, vitality, and importance through "seeing themselves" in Trump. He has become a central, dominant element of their personal identity and self image. If something made Trump's age, mental incompetence, and frailty undeniable, that entire cohort would have a complete mental and emotional breakdown. They would realize they're old, no longer central in culture, facing death, and have left a trail of wreckage where their friends and family used to be.

I'm not exaggerating when I say, I think there would be a dramatic increase in geriatric suicides.

load more comments
view more: next ›