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Harris to release medical records as campaign looks to pressure Trump to do the same
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If he only needed his supporters to win, he would have won in 2020. I have no idea why people aren't aware of that now.
People voted against however things were because of the pandemic. Trump was in charge, so he caught the general dissatfication with everything.
Now the sting of inflation last year likely has a lot of those same people again upset at how things are and vote for change again, whoever it will be.
Also, 2020 was the most accessible election in history, with so much flexibility for remote voting and so many people not stuck at work unable to find time to vote. The gop has been changing that, locking down absentee voting more, successfully getting voting id laws passed, and reducing early voting sites and hours. People are too busy working at their workplace again, and access to voting is reduced.
Ok? He still needs more than just his supporters to win. If you think his win is inevitable and people shouldn't bother voting, just say so. Otherwise, what is your point?
You do understand the election is a toss-up, don't you?
Yes? Because many of those people are willing to vote for him because they always vote Republican, not because they like him. And they're being shaved off bit by bit. Pointing and laughing has been a help. The whole "weird" thing is infuriating them.
He needs more than his supporters to win, the election is a toss-up, and his supporters are dumping him.
...are you going to tell me he's shifting left, because that would be ludicrous, but seems to be the only way to draw a coherent thread out of what you're saying?
No? I'm telling you that he can't win with just his supporters. Are you suggesting he's definitely going to win and no one should bother voting for Harris? What is the point of this discussion if you aren't?
Let's see...
Guess not.
I understand you said he can't win with just his supporters - you also said he's losing those supporters. Putting aside the fact that people voting for him are definitionally supporters, you understand that those 2 statements clearly imply that there's no need to vote for Harris, right?
My point is that you're all over the place with your talking points - there doesn't seem to be any way to thread them together.
I did not say he was losing supporters.
This is what I said:
I have no idea why you're lying when the comment chain is right there.
Who is the "they" if not people that would vote for Trump, and what do you mean by "shaved off" if you don't mean they won't be voting for him?
This is the third time. What part of this is unclear to you?
Those are not his supporters. There's a difference between voting for someone and supporting them. I didn't support either Clinton or Biden. I voted for them because they weren't Trump.
Would it be fair to rephrase that as the people you've said he needs are abandoning him? What does that suggest about the need for people that oppose Trump to vote?
I don't know how you think lining up to vote for the head of the Republican party isn't supporting both the party and the head of the party, but that nonsensical position is beside the point.
No, it wouldn't be fair to change my words. But I can see why you would want to rather than acknowledge you didn't understand what I was saying.
In that case, I'll rephrase my question.
~~Would it be fair to rephrase that as~~ Should I take that to mean that the people you've said he needs are abandoning him? What does that suggest about the need for people that oppose Trump to vote?
My point the entire time is that what you're saying is nonsense. You're saying he's being abandoned by the people he needs - whether it's his supporters or non-supporters that will line up and support him by voting for him, and in response to me pointing out the election is a toss-up, you're accusing me of suggesting people don't need to turn out to vote and lying.
You see your flagrant hypocrisy and dishonesty here, don't you - or does the same deficiency that undermines your ability to understand the meaning of "support" similarly affect your reading comprehension and/or understanding of basic causality?
Nope. There would only be hypocrisy and dishonesty if I said he would definitely lose and so you shouldn't vote.
I said no such thing.
I didn't even say you said that. I asked you if that's what you meant. Then you got all upset and decided it was an accusation.
Oh - I see how it works.
Are you the kind of weasely, hypocritical liar that fails to understand commonly used words and basic causality while suggesting people are saying the opposite of very clear statements people have made with nothing that could possibly be interpreted as a contradiction, as you insist that obviously leading questions can't be interpreted as accusations?
That was easy - let's see how far this takes us...
Are you some kind of kiddy fiddler? An unrepentant moron? An obvious liar?
I'm just asking honest questions, you see. No implied accusations or anything. Don't get all upset - who would see that as an accusation?
Fuck me, this is asinine - your nonsense is laid bare at this point - I'm out.
As I said, I asked you a question and you decided it was an attack. Even after I let you know it wasn't. It wasn't a loaded question, I honestly wanted to know.
I'm not your enemy. I don't even know you.
But I'm guessing you'll decide this is another attack.