Everyone knows ships never ran into reefs before women existed
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So what have they said yet about the actual cause?
kagis
Sounds like nothing, but this is interesting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMNZS_Manawanui_(2019)
The sinking will be investigated by a naval Court of Inquiry.[46] “[Chief of Navy, rear admiral Garin] Golding said some parts of the inquiry would likely be public but others - for example where commercially sensitive information was involved - would remain confidential.”[47]
I mean, "security sensitive" would be surprising but at least something I'd maybe expect for a military ship, but "commercially-sensitive"? For a navy ship?
Only thing I can think of is that the New Zealand state was looking for oil or something.
looks more
She had previously served as the civilian survey vessel MV Edda Fonn in the Norwegian oil and gas industry.
Ah. Well, maybe that is a possibility, then.
Lots of the oil exploration ships are custom built for the job. This one is old, but I would guess that there may be some design information regarding it's survey capability that was marked as protected when it was purchased, even if it's not really relevant anymore
They slammed a frigate into an oil tanker in Norway. Oil tanker was being tugged and cant really manouver in a meaningful way, but the warship somehow didn't see it in the dark. Turns out modern frigates are more floating radar/weapon platforms and very very brittle
Shit, we had burkes collide and lose sailors: https://www.navy.mil/Press-Office/News-Stories/Article/3065656/
Which is weird, the old Perry class kept getting mined and hit by missiles and never came close to sinking, but that thing had the seakeeping of a duck.
If a Burke got hit by an exocet it'd probably be gone, the superstructure would burn and that would be it.
Think modern missiles are so accurate that they can recognize silhouettes and hit the bridge dead on so it's better to be fast and "invisible" than though. When this is in your armament you really don't need to be close I guess. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_Strike_Missile
And from the look of it it have some radar invisibility https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/HNoMS_Helge_Ingstad_(F313)
Yeah, the Swedish gotland is similar, the new frigates are amazing, just not as sturdy as the ww2 things that lost their bow and said 'fuck it, full speed astern!'
So dumb. The captain can be partially blamed if there was negligence considering planned routes going through areas with bad ZOC (zone of confidence), or bad knowledge of depth in easier terms. Which might be a reason as they were surveying the area. But that's pure speculation.
Trying to blame anything on the captain being a woman is just ridiculous. The navigator on watch could also run the ship aground due to bad navigation, without the captain even being included in the process.
Every time a grey ship is in an accident people open their cake holes. Let the investigation do its thing, then come back next year spewing your shit.
Not just that but I've seen posts mocking the captain for being a lesbian, and wokeness for why the boat crashed.
And that she was a DEI hire when her resume shows otherwise
Meanwhile the NZ gov use this as a distraction while they display a disgusting lack of humility, regret, or compassion to the people who will be most affected by this. What an embarrassment. They behave as if this is a minor loss by the All Blacks, while traipsing around the world on trade junkets with smarmy CEO-like abandon. Talk about up ending NZ’s already tenuous reputation in the South Pacific, and with our long disrespected neighbour Samoa. Not enough that this gov are trashing our local environment and services within the country. They really had to cherry pick these trolls out of a sea of moderate response , most likely at the instruction of their PR social media and info strategy overlords. I’m sure the skipper of this vessel is suffering enough without her government (and employer) cynically using her as a political opportunity for distraction.
Every time something bad happens when a white man is in charge I’m going to say it happened because the boat/company/whatever wasn’t woke enough.
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Judith Collin’s is a truly awful person, but even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
Wait was the captain blamed for their gender or biological sex? Because I’m against misogyny, but I’m all for slamming enbies for not being able to drive boats. You ever see them trying to navigate google maps? Pure chaos