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Was trying to read a news story and... What fresh shitfuckery is this? Why do I now have to pay money to a company just for the privilege of not being spied upon and not getting your cookies that I don't want or need? How is this even legal?

RE: "Why are you even reading that shitrag?" -- I clicked on a link someone posted in another sublemmit, didn't realise it was the Sun till after. I do not read the Sun on the regular, chill. My point stands regardless that this is extremely shitty and should probably not be allowed.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

What new level of hell is this?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I mean, do you expect news to be free?

Either pay for it by selling your data or with money, or don't use their website.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

Why do I need to sell my data? Cant I just have ads?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

the Sun would personally sell your organs if it could

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago

Well, you are subscribing to the Sun.

Its your own shitshow.

No one fucking cares.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago

Oh no. It's not like that. They don't even ask you about cookies any more.

This is a payment so they don't sell all your cookie data to their 1354 trusted data partners/advertising vultures.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

LibreWolf (which doesn't store any cookies or other website data by default, unless you allow it) + I still don't care about cookies or Consent-O-Matic

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago

Hm... Was gonna try Arkenfox one of these days tbh.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago

I find it amusing that they "use cookies to give you the best possible experience", but then ask you to pay to not have them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago

Time for 12ft.io I guess.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago

Where's the option where they send me their home address so i can mail them a baggie of my chili lunch liquishit?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago

No you don't.

The site is trash so you leave.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

This is a legitimate option per EU guidelines btw. They just want you to accept cookies.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I'm pretty sure the EU rejected this. Facebook tried the exact same thing except the paid version has no ads at all (so either you get tracked, or you pay for an ad-free untracked experience) and the EU's initial findings were that it wasn't compliant because every user should have the freedom to opt out of tracking without having to pay. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/european-union-says-meta-breaking-digital-rules-with-paid-ad-free-option-for-facebook-and-instagram

Having said that, Brexit happened so this is likely OK in the UK now.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago

EU Withdrawal Act effectively retained all applicable EU law as UK law so anything would have to be specifically rescinded after that.

I don't think anything's changed wrt gdpr

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It asks to play DRM content but plays videos anyway.

Their devs must be so sick of their business dept.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago

I'd be surprised if it was just the business department...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago

It looks like the big buttons are "accept all" or "pay for no ads", but the cookiescan still be tuned with the link under the "accept all"?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

The best part of this is you would need to give them your personal information to pay them, and you'd need to accept the necessary cookies for them to know you've paid when you access the website. 🤣🤣🤣

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

you'd need to accept the necessary cookies for them to know you've paid when you access the website

Cookies that are required for and only used for operational purposes (like knowing if the user is logged in) don't require consent.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

A naive question of mine, but isn't using a browser/extensions that silently/transparently blocks cookies (such as Brave, but not just it) enough to fearlessly click "Accept All Cookies", since ultimately they would be pointless for the purpose of tracking (due to the browser's own cookie blocking capabilities)?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago

Yeah it would. But as I said elsewhere, this is probably enough to be 'too much effort' for the majority of users, and definitely a lot more effort than it should be. I already know several people who habitually click accept all on cookie banners, and I know I have caught myself doing that a couple times too...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago

you get ads whether pay or not. keep your money

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago

And, though I don't know about this one in particular, just because you pay not to have personalized ads, doesn't mean you're paying not to have your data tracked and sold by this company or to not have tracking cookies added to your browser by them that other sites can use to target ads to you.

It's just that they won't use the information they collect or buy or get from partners' tracking cookies or advertising IDs already on your system to target the ads you see while on their site and logged in.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I don't think I've ever had 63 tabs open on my browser. Well done.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Hey, my phone has 12Gb of RAM for a reason, and bookmarks are scawy...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago

More rams than a shepard. Respect.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I had 1600 open in Firefox on my computer (and maybe 200 on my phone) until I decided enough is enough and closed all of them. These days I close every tab at the end of the day.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Really? I regularly have well over 100, constant ♾️ Don't get me wrong, I wish I didn't.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago

Mad lad, hats off to you. If I have 6 or more open I start to feel uncomfortable.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago

"To change all cookie settings click_here" <-- this is the bit you want. It's free to reject all the cookies yourself.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Why are you trying to read the Sun? Brain cancer is a terrible disease. Don't do this to your family.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

This is happening because the site is shitty so don't use the shitty site. Sounds pretty f'n on-point to me.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago

I agree with the sentiment about the shittyness of the site.

But this was about a new bullshit cookie bullshit.

If you can understand the persons problem here then maybe you need to do some work about that

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Visiting the Murdoch-owned Sun was your first mistake. Everything they do to you after that is your own fault.,

Might as well hand your credit card to the MyPillow Guy next and complain about how much money just got charged to your account from the nearest strip club.

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