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They line up in front of a courthouse in southeastern France, from morning to evening, and have gathered in the thousands in cities across the country. They hold signs reading, "one rape every six minutes," "not all men but always a man," and "giving in is not consenting."

They chant: "Rapist we see you, victim we believe you."

Women across France are rallying in support of Gisèle Pelicot, a 72-year-old reluctant icon whose husband is on trial in the city of Avignon for systematically drugging her and inviting dozens of men, 50 of whom are now his co-defendants, into their home to rape her over nearly a decade.

The shocking case has sparked what many women in France call a long-overdue reckoning over "rape culture" and systemic sexism in the way the judicial system handles sexual violence.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

My heart breaks for her. I'm glad she gets to see the support of those around her while going through this. And Jesus fuck, how can you even do that to someone? I just cannot wrap my mind of being able to hurt someone like that, and then to keep doing that, and just go on living life. I'm not religious, but I hope that man burns in hell.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Husband aside, that's 50 separate people who thought this was okay. Ffs

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (10 children)

Women made up 89% of rape victims, while 96% of sexual violence perpetrators were men.

Ok, so not so men but 96% of perpetrators are men.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (11 children)

This very precise statistic comes from a single study made in bad faith, over 20 years ago. If you want to read a more recent study, with linked sources, feel free to check https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/sexual-victimization-by-women-is-more-common-than-previously-known/

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That percentage came from the 2021 report by the French government. This is not outdated information. And it's pertains to France not America.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

'Not all men but always a man' seems to marginalise victims of female rapists, which do exist.

Otherwise, I'm absolutely in favour of rehabilitation, and if necessary, isolation of rapists - of all genders. I hope the court/government can be made to agree

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (4 children)

From the article:

The number of sexual assault victims in France increased by 33% in 2021 and nearly doubled from 2017, according to a government report. Women made up 89% of rape victims, while 96% of sexual violence perpetrators were men.

It seems that sexual violence has been hidden in plain sight and downplayed heavily by the police and justice system, or simply socially accepted.

It's estimated 10% of people have been victim of incest, here in France. How can you build something safe based on that.

I don't believe our current justice system allows for proper rehabilitation. Second offense for such crimes are still very high (10%?).

IMHO It's a nation wide educational failure and our politicians aren't really keen on fixing this, for now.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Keep in mind those numbers don't perfectly reflect reality though. Probably a few percents off in favor of women

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Were you responding to something specific I said or just providing more facts?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Just providing more facts on the "all men" plus maybe a bit more context on the situation here.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Women made up 89% of rape victims, while 96% of sexual violence perpetrators were men.

Oh yes that 4% really really must be stopped.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (14 children)

I can tell all of those commenting on "Not all men ..." this: Those women don't give a shit what you think. So 4% aren't men, you know what, it might not be technically correct, but it's certainly close enough.

Also you sound like the "All Lives Matter" folks.

Let it go.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The heck you mean "close enough", 4% is not within margin of error, and even then this is a grave accusation to lump on an entire demographic.

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