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cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/3613920

https://archive.ph/tR7s6

Get fuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked

“This isn’t going to stop,” Allen told the New York Times. “Art is dead, dude. It’s over. A.I. won. Humans lost.”

"But I still want to get paid for it."

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

In 2021 I made a sound installation project called "Opéra Spatial " and entered a bunch of public prompt in mid-jouney via discord to generate images for the work. This guy made his image on year later.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Art is dead, dude. It’s over. A.I. won. Humans lost.

He made the art shown below. It's not even good lmao, why the fuck would you declare something like that if you make the shittiest looking AI art. What a fucking clown.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

He didn't make shit.

A computer made it. He provided some guidance.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well in a way all Art is being done indirectly by some sort of instrument. Only the degree of sophistication or degree of separation of this instrument is different. A pencil drawing is in principle also done by the pencil, but I provided a lot of guidance through my hand. A pencil - almost no sophistication - is on one side of the spectrum and Midjourney/Stable Diffusion etc is on the other side of the spectrum.

I don't want to judge AI "art" in general - there's so many awful traditional artworks that AI art doesn't really stand out.

What rubs me the wrong way is that it is a tool that no human can understand reasonably well. Everybody can understand a pencil. It's possible to understand a computer renderer that renders digital art. But no one can understand the totality of an LLM which was trained on terabytes of images. It's a lot of trial and error, because what the tool does generate random images even with precise directions. It's throwing dice until one likes the result.

The one thing I give this "artist" credit for: he was very early (maye even the first?) that entered AI art into a contest and fooled the jury. Being the first is often enough historically to make "great art". Where art is more measured n the impact it has on a societal discussion. So I give him that.

But a court already decided you can't copyright AI art, because it's trained on other art without permission. So he can get fucked.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

The pencil does not make the art.

There's a fundamental difference between AI image generation and an artist creating something that is both inherent and obvious.

If you can't see that then I'm not sure there's much help for you.

More than that, art being created by an artist has a style and a feeling behind it. There's a nostalgia present in every painting. An artist saw something, and recreated it in a way that spoke to them.

An algorithm can recreate images that look similar but with no understanding. It's just an image and lacks all the things that makes art what it is. By removing humanity from art you literally remove the reason for it to exist.

Flatly, it isn't art. It's slightly better than random. But as it happens, humans are better at that too.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

It looks cool from a distance, but it really falls apart when you look closer

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Looks like a psychedalic dream and not in a good way.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

The layers to irony in this case is almost too delicious.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

One of the very firest things I looked into when I learned about midjourney was look into the copyright matters pertaining to Ai generated art. Saw that it's not really copyrightable, and then started using the search feature on their discord to find prompts by others for the junk I wanted.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

It's probably a safe bet that this AI artist was also a NFT artist or procurer a few years ago.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Bit melodramatic. Even the real artists that midjourney actually stole from don't claim to have lost millions individually as a result.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They forgot to put "Artist" in quotes too

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

anyone can be an artist, but it takes talent to become famous.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

You're not wrong, but he also might not be either :)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

I love how they quoted “famous”

What a fuckin tool, for real

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

He cannot copyright it because he didn't make it. He wrote a couple of words into a text box. It's no different from commissioning an artist to draw for you, except in this scenario it is analogous to the artist turning out to be someone who traces other people's art without their consent, and claiming you made the picture.

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