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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

I've said it before .. and I'll say it again.

I rather a dude handling my food get paid better than someone touching cardboard.

No balls on my food is preferred over no balls on my Amazon packages.

But really fudge all that. Eat the rich!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Lmao

Packs boxes at Amazon; believes he is skilled labor and fast food workers aren't.

Buddy, you're closer to being replaced by a machine than the burger flipper.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Them believing that they are skilled labor tells you all about the value of their opinion.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Flipping burgers and packing boxes are both skilled labour. There's no such thing as unskilled labour.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You can rank anything, and piling boxes such that they don't fall over and kill someone is more dangerous with more expertise than cooking McDonald's burgers for 2min then doing it again.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The risk of food poisoning is at least equal to your proposed danger stack.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

One can imagine just walking in blind and getting an order to do X of something right now without any guidance.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Drag doesn't know how to make a big mac. Drag doesn't know the procedure for packing an Amazon box. Drag doesn't know how to turn on the stove or where to find the tape. And drag sure couldn't do it as fast as the pros, even with instruction.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Drag is here to take your orders and ruin them in 3-5 business days.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

OK, so what skill is needed to put Box A into Box B where Box B is three times the size of Box A?

What does the training involve?

Are there really people out there who can't do that (excluding reasons like physical disability)?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Drag doesn't know what the legal and organisational standards are on the amount of packing material to cushion fragile items, or what kinds of tape need to be used.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Aircraft engineers and mechanics used to be considered unskilled labor until the 1950s. They were only "reclassified" during the Cold War because there weren't enough people going into the profession to keep up with the demand.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

My tech who knows how to take and read basic vital signs, flip granny like a pancake and wash her genitals without giving her an infection, walk her to the bathroom without yanking her IV out or cracking her head on the floor, the basic legal aspects of a psych admission, and the basics of psychosis, mania, etc well enough to briefly counsel a patient on their symptoms and which ones are important enough to notify me about-

-makes 16 an hour. Not that the warehouse worker doesn't deserve a living wage, but to call that skilled labor, and especially more skilled labor than food service is frankly delusional.

Even my partner who does work in food service knows more than the warehouse worker because he knows the biology and chemistry of food safety and sanitation, prevention of allergen cross contamination, knife / sharps safety, and fire and fire extinguisher classifications and how to put out a grease fire-

-and that was before he got a job in the hospital kitchen where he also learned about specialized medical diets including food and drink thicknesses and consistencies, sodium and carb restrictions, and even safety trays for violent and suicidal patients.

What's in that warehouse training? How to lift with your knees instead of your back and rotating stock? Storage temperatures? Because food service does all that too. The only thing they might know more about than a food service worker is how to use a forklift, and that's only if their employer thought they were intelligent and level headed enough to bother training on one, and this post does not evidence those qualities.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (4 children)

lol packing boxes at Amazon being skilled labor in comparison to the burger dudes. Like, my dude, you're about half a step above the dude putting a burger together then packing a bag with it, and I'm being generous.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

And like. We've all ordered from amazon. We know how they pack boxes. There's no skill involved there.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You need a permit to handle food.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Packing a box seems easier than operating the machines at mcdos. Timing the operation, consistency, time pressure, angry clients, ...

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Working at McDonald's fucking sucks. They deserve far more in hazard pay.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Those bathrooms are proof those employees don't receive the hazard pay they should to clean those things. Mcdonalds.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If this troll were any more obvious he'd be hiding under bridges eating children.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, the "skilled labor" is when the script slipped.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Man, if you had to get that far to see it, I don't know what to tell you.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Man, if you have to be a dick to people on the internet to feel special I don't know what to tell you.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

On a ragebait post specifically about being a dick to an obvious strawman.

Sorry, but if you're so eager to hate that you fail to notice this incredibly obvious troll, you should look in a mirror before accusing others of being dicks.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

I think the skilled labour guy is using sarcasm, and the rest of the internet is not picking up on it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The difference in pay is easier to understand if we keep the time increments the same:

Dude: $16/hr

Bezos: $9,000,000/hr

Bezos makes 562,500 times as much.

Edit: added a missing zero

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I agree with your point, but I'm struggling with your numbers... Is it $9,000.00/hr or $900,000/HR?

Editting myself to add: either is a horrific amount for one man to earn

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

If we take the 150,000 / min from the meme as given, then that's 9,000,000 / h. That also gels with the factor of 562,500. I think friend_of_satan just dropped a 0 there.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I think we're all missing the point here, and this is how they divide us. (By they I mean monied interests). Back in the 60s you could get a job air hammering in the same 8 bolts all day that would provide you a house, car, and your spouse doesn't work and you have 2 kids and go on vacation twice a year and the company takes care of your retirement. Both of these jobs (in ops post) require the same or more skill to do and you can't even afford to rent a studio apartment on your own. We need to stop looking at other "unskilled" labor and saying "they better not make a much as me" and start asking "hold on, why can't we both make more?" Rising tides lift all ships. The only people that suffer are the multi millionaires.

This isnt radical. If you work full time you should be able to afford what your parents and grandparents had in the 60s working full time.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Honest labor is honest labor, whatever it's moping the floor or engineering new bridges and rockets. We need each other. And we all want to have a sufficient amount of these funny play-money papers once we clock out for today, or, rather, not feeling limited by the lack of them up to the point of starvation.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Exactly 💯.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

All Labor is skilled Labor.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No. "Skilled labour" means that you're hiring someone because of a skill or training they already have.

A carpenter is skilled labour because you expect a carpenter to already be able to work with wood. Your not going to train them from scratch on the job. They'll already have served as an apprentice or been trained in some other way.

A fork lift driver would need to have a license before you hired them. Skilled labour.

Somebody packing boxes or flipping burger is "unskilled labour". On day 1 you'll be taught the job. There will be no prerequisite skills needed. It doesn't mean "there's no skill in this job", just that "there is no requirement to have a skill to apply this job".

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They get taught the job, making them... skilled?

A carpenter gets an apprenticeship for 2-3 years where they get taught the job, does that make it unskilled as well?

Some jobs are easier to learn than others, that doesn't mean they're easier or worth less, or require no skills.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I hate to break it to that guy but packing boxes isn't skilled labor either.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's a skill. Just a lower skill, as it's not that hard to learn or become good at it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Yeah and that's what "skilled labor" means. It is about people with higher skills required for their job, skills that are in high demand. There is a huge difference between a doctor, programmer, CAD designer, and a cashier.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

If anything, I'd claim that burger flipping requires more skill than item boxing.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (6 children)

All labour is skilled labour. If you have to be trained how to do something it’s a skill.

You think packing boxes is just putting things in boxes but I’m sure there is more to it, particularly when working for dystopian Amazon where they’re very strict with KPIs.

People called it unskilled labour as a means to pay people less.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Given the size of the boxes my Amazon stuff comes in you'd have to be extremely challenged not to be able to get that stuff in there. They're not exactly solving the Knapsack Packing Problem multiple times a day.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

My understanding is some algorithm decides what size box to use for an order, the packer packs that box.

The skill comes from the repetition of doing the task to become efficient enough not to be taken out back and put down by Bezos.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Crab ass mentality. You should be asking why you get paid so little not keeping everyone else down

And the fast food shit is probably about as skilled as packing Amazon boxes the fuck you on about

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Bro, I went to college and got a degree in packinology. Not everyone is qualified to use scotch tape and bubble wrap. You know how many people die every year choking on packing peanuts?

A brain sturgeon ain’t got shit on me.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

am I the only one who understood this as the dude claiming the burguers flippers being the skilled labour, as in, trying to show solidarity?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's ambiguous, though. They could be complaining about the frycooks making as much as them, or about the frycooks not making as much as them. You'd have to look at what else they posted to see whether they're generally pro-labor or not. Or ask them what they mean by their tweet. Both of which are made difficult by the username being blocked out.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I took it as the total reverse.

That he "doing skilled labor" packing boxes at Amazon is above somebody "flipping burgers" at McDonald's.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I took it as the total reverse.

yes, you and everybody else, it seems

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