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I wonder if she's willing to risk the future of democracy in America to detach the US from Israel.
It appears so.
How is the future of democracy going to be risked?
Jill Stein cannot win this election. She can only spoil it for Kamala Harris and in so doing pass the win to Donald Trump.
Donald Trump and the RNC are a material threat to democracy in the USA.
Maybe the Democrats should be nicer to Green Voters instead of calling them idiots or traitors every time they say they are gonna vote Green.
I'm not voting Green party, but the hate and rudeness I have received here guaranteed that I won't vote Democrat. No way.
the hate and rudeness I have received here guaranteed that I won’t vote Democrat. No way.
Which, in the eyes of rational people, makes you an idiot and a traitor. An idiot, because you're letting your bruised ego get in the way of making the only rational choice in the upcoming election, potentially causing a much greater amount of harm in the future. And a traitor, because the person you're most benefitting by your aforementioned idiocy is someone who has already committed treason against his country, and has stated on several occasions that he would like to do away with basic tenets of democracy if he gets elected.
So, you might balk at both labels, but both are accurate. If you don't like it, you have two options: either change your behavior, or pretend that self-affirmations will actually alter reality.
Trump is an incompetent idiot. I don't think he's a threat to democracy though. I'm not afraid of him. You are free to be, but nah, I'm not.
The man literally advocated for an American Kristallnacht at a rally recently.
You are a fool to not see him and his dictatorial ambitions as a threat. Project 2025 clearly outlines the RNC's goals to shift the nation towards a dictatorship and remove dissident ideologies by force.
Furthermore, the future for Palestine will fare no better under Trump than Harris. All Stein is doing by purposely trying to spoil a win for Harris is enabling and aiding the growth of fascism in the US.
I'm not scared of him at all. I like Stein, even tho I'm not voting for her.
How is Stein a spoiler? Most of us wouldnt vote for Harris even if there were no 3rd party. Harris is now backed by the guy that helped write P2025 and helped found the Heritage Foundation, and that's how it will end up being bipartisan with liberals supporting it in a few years. Liberals are cheering in their party becoming a full fledged openly right wing party
She's a spoiler because she can't get to 270. It's literally impossible because she's not on enough ballots.
Also dude liberals are and have always been center right...Clinton's didn't push the gop further right, the GOP went on their own.
She's on enough ballots to get 538 The DNC pushed the RNC further to the right as they kept pushing their own party to the right.
If you didn't know about Stein I'm betting you know nothing about triangulation, the DLC, Third Way Democrats. All Bill Clinton policies to shift your party into becoming right wing conservatives they are today. Far enough right wing for people like Heritage Foundation founder members endorsing Harris. The same guy that wrote P2025.
The Heritage Foundation was founded on February 16, 1973, during the Nixon administration by Paul Weyrich, Edwin Feulner, and Joseph Coors.[11][12][13]
So uh, which one endorsed Harris? And Proj 2025 has dozens of authors, not one btw.
Mickey Edwards, one of the founders and founding trustee
A trustee is someone that manages the assets for someone else, in this case an organization.
My brother! Who gets accused of being a bot more, you or me?!
Put down the crack pipe.
I'm guessing you wouldn't know politicalcorruption if it was standing in front of demanding you vote for it
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Trump is the bed liberals made for themselves when they kept punching left and ignoring everyone telling them what would happen if you supported Clinton in 2016. And we were right about how things played out.
Yep! I would have voted for Bernie!
100%. Harris is no peach either. I'd much rather someone with Stein's policies win.
But she doesn't have any chance. And it's imperative that Trump not win.
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“When I’m president you’ll never have to [get to] vote again!”-the orange turd.
But it’s okay, Because you’re not afraid of trump.
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This will cause a firestorm.
It might. And I'll probably get lots messages about how I am voting for Trump (which I'm not). All because I posted the article. lol
For the good of the entire fucking world, Jill Stein should go away. Go back to practicing medicine, where you're usually limited to only killing one person at a time.
There's no excuse for the Democrats' support for Israel's genocidal wars, and Biden is complicit in his unwavering material (materiel? Both? Both.) support that allows them to continue doing it. I hate that if I don't vote for the enabling-genocide party, I'll get the enabling-genocide-but-also-women-are-things-and-LGBTQ-people-shouldn't-exist party.
So instead her goal is to ensure the election of Donald Trump and his merry band of eschatological fetishists, who'll not only do the same thing because their literal goal is to bring about the apocalypse, but also bring back all his very smart domestic policies and hand the government over to the Project 2025 fanatics to turn the United States into Gilead. Brilliant. Real big-picture thinking there, doctor.
Go back to practicing medicine, where you’re usually limited to only killing one person at a time.
Any source or links that say she kills people as a doctor?
I'd argue she shouldn't be allowed to practice anything other than some deep breathing and self-reflection.
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Either this is a dedicated basement dweller who has no life other than shitposting tankie propaganda like it is their fucking job.
(Or, and I think this is more likely)
This is a coordinated, and malignant effort by a group of bad faith actors to coopt the political discourse on Lemmy in an attempt to drown out real discussion, and turn this place into the tankie equivalent of 8chan for pro-Putin LARPers.
I think basement dweller is much more likely. Let's not forget, trolling is fun at a certain age. It's a recreational activity, engaged in as a way to enjoyably pass the time. This is why the advice always used to be to not interact, and just starve them of any engagement so it stopped being enjoyable. To not feed them.
That stopped working when real effects also became achievable, but we shouldn't forget that the first motivation is still there. Just because ignoring them won't make them go away now, because they're trying to actually work on a nebulous goal, doesn't mean it ever stopped being fun.
I mean, is it so hard to believe, when we used to get regularly DDoSed and even occasionally hacked, that we'd also pick up some dedicated trolls from time to time? It'd frankly be pretty naive to think we'd be so lucky, if someone has ever spent any time in the seedier corners of the internet where these things come from.
It's that fun aspect we have to remember. I mean, I disagree with ozma, Linker, jimmydore, lots of people very regularly, but they're not stringing out dozen+ long comment chains just trying to irritate the person they're interacting with at whatever moment. They're not trolling, they just have strong opinions. It's specifically that having fun at other people's expense thing that makes this one different. And frankly, it's very common on the internet, just usually not so much in moderated spaces, when the mods are being appropriately responsible. The rest of the internet is still out there though, can always go spend some time on 4chan's /pol/ if you need to see the sorts of things we're dealing with. Maybe a LoL lobby, I hear those are lovely. Maybe the comments sections under some Gamergate youtuber's videos, or Ben Shapiro or someone.
Plenty of places you can find people that just want to have a good time at your expense. For fun, with just a side dose of fuck-the-world.
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Yay more nonsense about Jill Stein from someone who prefers a Trump victory. Everyone enjoy your dose of bad faith comments from OP while they continue their totally real crusade against the duopoly. Absolutely not a troll account managed by a bunch of people spamming bullshit day in and day out.
Yeah, she'll stop Kamala and hand it to Trump. Nobody is "flocking" to her.
Saying the quiet part out loud?
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