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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (3 children)

How everyone who knew how to had their own personal homepage.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I love https://www.cameronsworld.net/. I wish websites were still made like this.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

My favourite memory is also one of my funniest.

When I first got my computer Hotmail was the e-mail of choice. Everyone had to have a Hotmail account, it let you use MSN Messenger!

I didn't write down the spelling, and as a 12-13 year old I typed in "hot male dot com"
Coincidentally that was also one of the first times I realised I'm probably not straight.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Everyone was nice to each other and followed unwritten rules in communication. :)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Super curious how old you are, we got aol in about 1991 and chat rooms were.. Not like that lol

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well I'm not an American so I have not used AOL-services.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What I mostly remember is the sense of hard work and discovery.

In the mid-to-late 1990s, after the internet became a public phenomenon, but before it totally dominated our lives, spending time on the web felt very different than it does today. There was no publicly-accessible index of websites, search was in its infancy, and link aggregators as we know them today just didn't exist. For the first time, you didn't need to be a tech-savvy person to experience the WWW, but it was still pretty incomprehensible to most people, who didn't understand what the internet was for.

New "homesteaders" developed websites on free hosts like GeoCities/Tripod/Angelfire; the former host organized itself into "neighbourhoods" of sites because we still thought about the internet as a physical space. Web rings served as pilgrimage routes that connected websites together, irrespective of domain or host, into self-selected communities. They organized around subjects/themes, like Lemmy communities, subreddits, hashtags, etc. are today. They emerged around the same time as public bulletin boards which, for people who were not familiar with BBS, were also a transformative technology, and also the source of life-changing memories.

I am so privileged to have been around to explore the early internet.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Primitive search engines often allowed you to browse websites by topic. You could click on stuff like different music or film genres, specific movie or book titles, or celebrity names, and youd be presented with a list of all websites on that topic.

Since it was the early internet and everyone had multiple personal geocities or angelfire sites, you'd churn up pages upon pages of results for everything. Each search engine produced vastly different results, so you could waste a day on Alta Vista, then go to Excite and do it over again, finding a bunch of different stuff.

I'd spend hours opening websites for shitty (and some surprisingly excellent) bands from all over the world. A handful even went on to real life notoriety.

My biggest flex along those lines is I became a huge fan of AFI in 1992 or 1993 because there were some folks in California writing about the punk scene, and they came up a lot. Sometimes somebody would host 30 second .wav (.ra, maybe?) files recorded on a crappy tape recorder or something from a live show or local radio station. It was a cool time to be young and excited about music.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

Before getting home Internet access, my "online" world was BBSes. Local BBSes, of course, because we couldn't dial long distance without repercussions. My favourite demogroup was Future Crew and I hated that it took months (or sometimes never) to get their releases on our local BBSes. Even with Fidonet, a lot of BBSes would only sync with remote nodes a couple times a month to save money, so it was slow going.

I remember a few days after we got home Internet access, I was eating breakfast and I suddenly had a thought. Wait...doesn't Future Crew's BBS run an FTP server? I think I saw them mention that in one of their nfo files. If they have an FTP server, I could just...connect to it. Like, directly, myself, from my house.

The implications of this were so strong that I started shaking. I couldn't finish my breakfast.

I ran downstairs and booted up the computer and typed in ftp.mpoli.fi and...there it was. Future Crew's home BBS was just available for anyone in the world to connect to. I navigated around a little bit and found a song I hadn't seen before on any of the local BBSes. I started the download, and it worked, and a blazing 3kB/s. I remember I just started crying at the implications of what a worldwide network meant.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

From back before you accessed all your sites by using a search engine and instead you typed whatever that thing was and then ".com" (e.g. you wanted info on Cocoa Puffs, you would go to cocoapuffs.com) into your URL bar (yes, before that bar was a unified search/URL bar). If you mistyped or spelled something wrong, you would get porn almost every time. And then that porn would take over your whole computer. Even if you closed your web browser, it was your desktop background now. And trying to change it back didn't work. And you basically just had to restart your computer because your OS was completely compromised until you rebooted, then it would go back to normal after the reboot.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I loved this one. Before broadband internet was common a number of us would download our Linux ISOs from questionable websites in our university computer lab and then take our files home on floppy or zip disk. I remember once my friend got trapped in a number of popups which claimed to have pictures of "Britney Spears Nude!!!" and I loudly asked him "what does 'Britney Spears Nude' mean?" in the full lab and then watching him panic close down everything.

Golden days!

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I loved just browsing the web and looking at random sites. Back in the late 90s, everyone made websites for anything they wanted. The internet wasn't consolidated into just a few big sites then, there were personal websites for literally everything.

There were even meme websites... like in the sense that the sites themselves were the meme. For example, there was a website "Mr T ate my balls", and then there were a ton of other similar sites like "Chewbacca ate my balls" or "sailor moon ate my balls".

If I wanted to find info about a specific TV show or something, there were likely multiple fan sites set up that were dedicated specifically to that show.

It was such a different experience from the internet today. I kind of miss it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I remember going to Jeff's code page to look up cheat codes for My computer games. It really was a different time

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Fan message boards where people actually loved what they were fans of. Now you go onto the internet to talk about that show or game you love and it's nothing but people shitting on your joy.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)
  • Newgrounds
  • Homestar Runner
  • AIM
  • Yahoo chat rooms
  • MUDs
  • Not internet, but Leisure Suit Larry holds a special place in my memories.
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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

The dial-up tone. I used to be able to gauge how good the connection was going to be by the tones, as it would fall back to slower speeds if it could not connect at the highest speed. That tone meant connecting to the "world at large" for me.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not sure if this is considered "early internet", but it was StumbleUpon. There was always something interesting. You could browse interests and see other users who liked them. I looked at the Farscape category and a few people had added it. I sent a message to one of them who had a few other similar interests and we became pretty good internet friends. Turns out she was a Brazilian girl. We had nearly daily chats on MSN messenger for a couple years. Every once in a while I remember her and hope she's doing okay. I still find it crazy that I was able to connect with another Farscape fan all the way down in Brazil in the early 2000s.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

It was like 92 or 93 and my dad brought home a computer and didn't know what it could be used for so they just let 7 year old me mess around on it. My year older cousin told me that we could use it to talk to him using instant messaging. When I showed my parents they were blown away.

Also when I realized the computer they bought had bundled with it DOOM. That was great!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I miss the flashgame boom and runescape being on Miniclips top 5 games.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Definitely ICQ. The best instant messenger, revolutionary for its time. It was reliable and had many very nice features. Then, Microsoft came with its shitty MSN Messenger, and it marked the end of an era.

And Geocities of course. I still remember the address of my "personal home page".

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My roommate could tell you the number the modem was dialing by listening to it. Mystified to this day at how many hours that took to matter. (He also OCed his rig by submerging all possible hardware in a bin full of oil, so maybe it was symptomatic of his favorite pastime.)

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Beseen internet chatrooms, ICQ, every website was someone's personal project, they just made it for fun. Yahoo messenger pool games and online chess. Php message boards and the communities that formed around those.

The early internet was so slow that everything was text based. Talking to other people was the primary form of interaction and nothing was really monetized. Everything was just there because it was nerd shit and people found homes, and communities, and belonging. It was real world values on a screen, not the influencer driven, 30sec video affiliate links shallow, corporate conglomerate that it is now.

That's why I appreciate the fediverse. It feels like real people just playing with technology and talking to each other.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Illucia: the town of Final Fantasy. This was a Final Fantasy fan site, but themed as a town from a Final Fantasy. This isn't a town ripped out of a particular game though. Illucia was an entirely original town with original art created by fan Tatsushi Nakao.

Before the release of FF7, it was themed after a town from the 16-bit era of Final Fantasy. To navigate the town, the user was presented with a clickable server-side image map, where clicking on different buildings in the town would take the user to a page on the site that was thematically appropriate to the building.

Quick aside: a history lesson on image maps. Image maps were a technique that allowed for a single image to be linked to multiple different places based on where the user clicked it. In the later years of image maps, the web site developer ("webmaster" to use the period-appropriate nomenclature 😜) could define the different clickable areas in HTML and the browser would handle requesting the correct URL based on where the user clicked. This is a client-side image map. Before browsers had this capability though, browsers would instead send the clicked coordinates to a server-side script β€” often written in Perl, I think β€” which would translate the coordinates and send back the corresponding page.

Anyway, after the release of FF7, Illucia was reworked in that style. I believe in this iteration, the user would interact with it by using the arrow keys to walk an actual character avatar around the town and enter various buildings rather than clicking on a (relatively) simple image map.

Just like the FF series did, the site sorta lost its luster for me at that point. Final Fantasy had gone from an ensemble cast of quirky but warm characters and brightly colored pixel art to a blue and gray mess of blurry, pre-rendered environments and low-poly brooding characters that looked bad at the time and aged even worse. I pretty much stopped visiting, but I still fondly remember those old pixel art days of Illucia.

Sadly, I haven't been able to find any trace of it online anymore aside from one brief mention in another online article. If anyone knows of anything, please send it my way!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All the awesome flash games. Wasn't super early but there are 3 games I loved but don't remember the names of them...

  1. build a rocket bit by bit and try and fly it higher each time as your fuel runs down. Eventually you get into space. 2D.

  2. you are a penguin, it's a ski slope distance game. Get power ups and go further each time. I think you have a hang glider thing. 2D.

  3. A paper plane distance thing by Microsoft Xbox where you throw it through a window and there's sounds of kids playing. 2D.

Also Monkey kick-off. Another fave.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

That Dialup sound.

Newsgroups.

The kick I got out of posting up my own crappy page with lots of annoying images and gifs (Geocities ftw!)

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Pshhhkkkkkkrrrr​kakingkakingkakingtsh​chchchchchchchcch​dingdingding

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So many great memories.. My favorite would have to be chatting for the first time. It was an amazing experience being able to type to someone in real time and get a response back.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

AlbinoBlackSheep & YTMND. Geocities.

Good God those sparkly pixel dolls that you could pick outfits for and customise too. Small me was obsessed.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Roleplaying in AOL chatrooms. I remember joining this group who roleplayed as vampires and hanging out in the "local tavern." I was only 9 and in hindsight half of what people were doing was hooking up, but it made me love writing.

Later on, I really enjoyed LiveJournal and staying up way too late reading fanfiction with my friends on AIM/MSN messenger.

Early Google. When AskJeeves fizzled away but SEO and ads hadn't taken over.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago
  • Numa numa yay
  • Flash games
  • Homestar Runner (look at da emails)
  • Neopets
  • RuneScape
  • Reddit when it was actually for nerds
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Playing Quake over dial-up on one of the first ISP-owned Quake servers in Australia.

Fun times...

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

chatting on IRC channels

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The early days of YouTube, spurred our own shitty video making within our group of friends. OG Neopets and Habbo Hotel were peak socializing with strangers on the internet. MSN allowed me to actually talk to people I knew in a way that was harder to do in person, helped me form relationships I wouldn't have normally had.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I miss old school Neopets a lot!

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Miniclip, Albino Blacksheep, and Yahoo! Games were basically all I did on the internet in elementary to middle school. I was a savage at yahoo pool/billiards

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Did you ever go to candystand.com? Basically the king of flash/shockwave games.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Collecting AOL CDs to get free minutes. Downloading risque photos on 56k and having your mom pick up the phone and kill your download halfway through. Fun times.

Early chat rooms were really fun, everything was fresh and people were excited with all of the potential and there was no overwhelming corporate bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

BBSes :) Because it was fantastic that we could dial eachothers computers and just share files and chat. Before that every computer were an island.

I feel the same with the fediverse now. The tech can create communities where people can talk without big tech being involved.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I made my own website with Microsoft Frontpage. Complete with "under construction" gifs and a visitor counter. I remember constantly refreshing to see if the visitor counter went up. It only ever did when I visited it.

Used to have a ton of fun with Frontpage, used to make simple games and stuff with it. I think I still have some saved on floppy disks.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Voraciously reading gURL.com. Got me into zine and riot grrl culture, and helped me actually learn about my body and sex in a positive way despite growing up in a conservative home.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

You could search for something, anything, and you would get results for what you looked for. Now it's just ads or some bullshit you weren't even looking for.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I spent a disgusting amount of time with MOOs in the 90s. Diversity University, RiverMOO, BayMOO, LambdaMOO. MOOs differed from MUDs in that you could program rooms and objects yourself, and they were more chat and exploration than MUDs which were mostly RP and combat. MUDs are still around, but the only MOO still up is LambdaMOO.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The sound of a Pentium computer booting up.

Learning DOS commands from an actual book I borrowed from a neighbor.

The first days of learning programming.

The sound of a dial-up modem while falling asleep on my desk waiting for a connection at a high usage hour (11 PM) when everybody was trying to get in on a lower tariff.

Downloading code for 3D demos - they were called "4k intros" (the challenge was to make the most complex graphics in only 4 KB), and changing equation parameters without any clue of what they do, compile and see the effect. That's how I learned. Good days.

Prehistorik 2 with a "latest generation sound card" Creative Sound Blaster on cheap speakers.

Coding in Pascal (and later Delphi) my own tools / projects while listening to 80's music in Winamp.

Being patient to download an mp3 in multiple sessions during 3 days, only to realize it's a different song with the same name but by another singer.

Ripping CDs and cataloging your collection in Where Is It?

Hearing "who is the fox?" in an internet cafe room while playing Carmageddon.

Magazines with demo CDs, like PC Gamer.

The AltaVista search engine.

Parties where 5 people had to bring their 1GB HDDs so there would be enough music diversity. Of course, using Winamp visualizations as disco lights.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

John Titor. I wish he'd come back and fix things

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Newsgroups and livejournal.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

MUD's - text based mmorpgs

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