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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (4 children)

ya know that inane SITUATIONAL AWARENESS paper that the ex-OpenAI guy posted, which is basically a window into what the most fully committed OpenAI doom cultists actually believe?

yeah, Ivanka Trump just tweeted it

But right now, there are perhaps a few hundred people, most of them in San Francisco and the AI labs, that have situational awareness. Through whatever peculiar forces of fate, I have found myself amongst them.

oh boy

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

From that blog post:

You can see the future first in San Francisco.

"And that, I think, was the handle - that sense of inevitable victory over the forces of old and evil. Not in any mean or military sense; we didn't need that. Our energy would simply prevail. We had all the momentum; we were riding the crest of a high and beautiful wave. So now, less than five years later, you can go up on a steep hill in Las Vegas and look west, and with the right kind of eyes you can almost see the high-water mark - that place where the wave finally broke and rolled back."

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Not a sneer, but ~~Kendrick~~ Ed Zitron just dropped.

Its damn good as usual, with Zitron taking aim at the current state of SaaS and tying it into his previous sneers on AI.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

People are "blatantly stealing my work," AI artist complains

When Jason Allen submitted his bombastically named Théâtre D’opéra Spatial to the US Copyright Office, they weren't so easily fooled as the judges back in Colorado. It was decided that the image could not be copyrighted in its entirety because, as an AI-generated image, it lacked the essential element of “human authorship". The office decided that, at best, Allen could copyright specific parts of the piece that he worked on himself in Photoshop.

“The Copyright Office’s refusal to register Theatre D’Opera Spatial has put me in a terrible position, with no recourse against others who are blatantly and repeatedly stealing my work without compensation or credit.” If something about that argument rings strangely familiar, it might be due to the various groups of artists suing the developers of AI image generators for using their work as training data without permission.

via @[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I vaguely remember mentioning this AI doomer before, but I ended up seeing him openly stating his support for SB 1047 whilst quote-tweeting a guy talking about OpenAI's current shitshow:

pro-1047 doomer

I've had this take multiple times before, but now I feel pretty convinced the "AI doom/AI safety" criti-hype is going to end up being a major double-edged sword for the AI industry.

The industry's publicly and repeatedly hyped up this idea that they're developing something so advanced/so intelligent that it could potentially cause humanity to get turned into paperclips if something went wrong. Whilst they've succeeded in getting a lot of people to buy this idea, they're now facing the problem that people don't trust them to use their supposedly world-ending tech responsibly.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Our anti-AI milita will be called "The Artists' Rifles"

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (15 children)

True believers at Vox' Future Perfect "vertical" let out a hearfelt REEEEEE as Saltman makes the obvious move to secure all the profits

https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/374275/openai-just-sold-you-out

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

The Zitron-pilled among us probably suspect that part of the real reason for this is, ironically, to obscure the fact that OpenAI has no real profits because of how ludicrously expensive their models are to train and operate and how limited the actual use cases that people will pay for have proven. It's better from a "getting investor money" perspective to have everyone talking about how terrible it is that investor profits are no longer capped for humanitarian reasons than to have more people ask whether we're getting close to the peak of this bubble.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

I'm feeling a weird mix of emotions about this. It's not the cash grab by ol' salty dog; capitalism is doing its thing. I'm both elated that these idiot liberals feel betrayed by this turn of events and enraged that these liberal idiots exist to launder the reputation of techbros in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

oh hey its that reoccurring thought I have about the "AI Safety" criti-hype popping back into my head

Expanding on that, part of me feels Altman is gonna find all the rhetoric he made about "AI doom" being used against him in the future - man's given the true believers reason to believe he'd commit omnicide-via-spicy-autocomplete for a quick buck.

Hell, the true believers who made this pretty explicitly pointed out Altman's made arguing for regulation a lot easier:

ai safety irony

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Job interviews by AI avatars are real and happening, apparently https://www.404media.co/ai-avatars-are-doing-job-interviews-now/

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Apparently An Post is the last holdout for crypto/AI/NFT synergy??

An Post unveils first AI-generated stamps

An Post has launched two artist-led generative AI-designed stamps featuring crypto technology in a first-ever for Ireland. Designer and AI Artist Kasia Oźmin crafted her visionary interpretation of an imaginary Ireland.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

it's Friday so I probably won't get an answer till Monday or Tuesday, but I did contact their press office asking about why the fuck NFTs in TYOOL twenty fucking twenty four and the sensitive issue of the art being facile plagiarism by an advertising executive

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

HN seems to be particularly deranged today, doesn't it?

It mostly seems to be a mopey debate over whether Saltman's impending apotheosis is good or bad.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

a nsfw found in the wild

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