this post was submitted on 22 Sep 2024
561 points (98.3% liked)

linuxmemes

20703 readers
1539 users here now

I use Arch btw


Sister communities:

Community rules

  1. Follow the site-wide rules and code of conduct
  2. Be civil
  3. Post Linux-related content
  4. No recent reposts

Please report posts and comments that break these rules!

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 
top 19 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Once again reminded of the amount of shit I get for not running windows and therefore not being able to play specific games. It's ok, I get to give my friends shit when their computers have trouble booting.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

With Proton and SteamOS, that list is becoming much smaller. I mostly rag on Mac these days as they now get the least support. Due to Apple charging devs to publish on the platform, they get less support, fewer updates and inflexible hardware. For example, I have someone in a group BG3 playthrough that has build compatibility broken all the time when patches come out for windows/proton.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 hours ago

obviously fake. in reality no one asks and the conversation just starts with the voice message

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 hours ago

the audio prob went as "I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux!"

[–] [email protected] 75 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

As if anyone calling it GNU+Linux would need to ask

[–] [email protected] 12 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

They should call it GNU^Linux^ instead

[–] [email protected] 7 points 14 hours ago

ᶫGͥNⷫUͧ+ͯKDE

[–] [email protected] 4 points 14 hours ago

Why you like GNU^Linux^ so much?

[–] [email protected] 114 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

The two messages have a different font and the third one somehow has more JPEG than the rest of the image

I think this is peak internet

[–] [email protected] 39 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

*Exasperatedly pushes glasses up nose

Technically, it's the whole background that has massive JPEG fragmentation, while the text is clearly two new layers with the bubbles paint-bucketed to match.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

img

... since you said it in such a confident tone of voice, I am going to accept your explanation at face value!:-)

[–] [email protected] 21 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Look, you can't just go around posting my photo on the internet without my permission.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago

Bold of a Redditor to presume that consent should matter! (/s in case anyone gets confused 🤔 - see the joke here is the presumption that someone speaking as such is a Redditor, which as we all realize is just about the worst insult that someone can be called by:-P)

[–] Tja 10 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

And the bubbles have different shades of turquoise.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 14 hours ago

I think that's just a gradient that spans all bubbles

[–] [email protected] 7 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Definitely me, despite of and because I have used so many other unixes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

What are main things you've found that BSDs lack to make you prefer GNU+Linux? What are things from the BSD world you wish that GNU+Linux had?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

BSD is a solid second choice in my experience. For a while I was considering using it as my primary platform, but in the last 10 years all i've done at work is linux, so that tipped me into linux. I haven't used BSD in a long time though, so my answers about what BSD has that linux does not have are outdated, as most of the things I loved on BSD are now found in some form on linux. Though I do love some of the CLI tools like diskutil. In general though, I've always found the GNU core utils and the tooling in linux that follows the same patterns to be really user friendly. It also drives me crazy that common tools like awk, sed, date, etc. are inconsistent between BSD and GNU, and I prefer the GNU syntaxes. (Yes, you can install GNU core utils on BSD and other platforms, but that's nonstandard, and why would I do that for daily driving when I can choose a platform that uses the GNU toolchain as the standard?)

Like @[email protected] said, BSD brought a lot to the table in the last 20 years, zfs being a big one. FreeBSD 8 and 9 were the last BSDs I ran, and zfs was a big part of that. Once we got zfs on linux, I went back to full linux. dtrace was also a huge one, and giving that up was hard, but now linux has strace.

I'm just so over AIX, HPUX, and Solaris. I'm glad I got experience with them and less so a few others like irix and sys-v. Working with Sun hardware was particularly eye opening, like being able to hot swap processors and memory, things I had never imagined. But since about 2012 I have deliberately steered my career away from all unixes except linux, and waaaaaay away from anything windows related, going so far as to take everything windows related off my resumé.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Different caller, same question.

The BSDs I've used are extremely well documented and cohesive. No basic tools or functions are missing and everything works very simply and together as a whole. The tooling they put forward in the 2000s like DTrace, ZFS, jails, bhyve, were simply unmatched for their capabilities at the time. Having all those tools on a simple and fast OS at the time felt like living in the future.

At the same time, BSD is severely lacking in gaming, graphics performance, compatibility with modern ecosystems, ease of use for less technical users, and generally seems to have stagnated in the last 10-15 or so years. Some chalk that up to leadership, some to the license / corporate interests largely moving to Linux, who knows. But these days I use Linux and while I miss the halcyon days of BSD, I wouldn't switch back.