So.... a convention every 4 years?
this post was submitted on 20 Sep 2024
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"We should do something about this" - COPXX
I... does the UN think they're handling climate change well and promptly?
i mean the global un is pretty good on it; it's just that the larger world powers (especially the us every time they have a conservative who goes backward on it) tend to drag their feet on it
I mean I don't think it's the UN's fault they can't get shit done about climate change, but I still wouldn't use it as a model
Also China doesn't want to fix their shit. So they'll always be a problem.
So ignore it until it kills us?
Haha yeah, I know right cries
Sooo high urgency with zero consequence for missing targets?
So do nothing until it's too late? got it....
« creating an AI fund to back projects in these [poorer] nations, establishing AI standards and data-sharing systems, and creating resources such as training to help nations with AI governance. »
So basically burn money and energy on some hallucinating algorithm should be as important as investing in green energy and reducing CO2 levels. That makes sense. Like, yeah, totally onboard. What could go wrong?
those ai projects will be countering the climate change projects! government at its usual
I'd like to ignore it until it goes away too, but I don't think that's an effective strategy for either issue.
Given the amount of electricity training and running all these LLMs requires, they might, like cryptocurrency, become drivers of climate change as they cause polluting generators to be built or unmothballed.
So, do nothing for 40 years while it gets progressively worse and allow countries to sign useless feel good things like the Paris Agreement?
So none at all...
confused. so nothing will happen, a lot of talk and EU makes a law thats only applied locally if memberstates agree?!?
Bevause they are doing something for the climate?
Ohh okay, so the AI is free to prosper 😁
"AI" is a scam that's contributing to planetary destruction. But it's nowhere near a problem on the same scale. This kind of political theater only fuels the "AI" BS.
So just chill?
IE regulatory capture and soothing bullshit?
So... do nothing about it?
But, let me guess, the billionaires don’t want them to.
Problem resolved itself.. ChatGPT is down.
AI: “Put glue in your pizza.” UN: “Ow no! It’s sentient.”
All this AI doomer talk is pointless. AI isn't the problem, humans are.
Capitalism is the problem. Humans use language, learn and can change behaviour over time. We’re not pre-programmed automatons. “Humans are the problem” is doomer talk.
Culture, which can change.
Yeah, we ahould something about those humans! /s
I agree. It's great to have machines do the work we don't want to do so we can do other things with our lives.
We just need to get over this mentality that those who have more deserve more and those who have less deserve less.
And I want to treat the UN like my weekly garbage, and have it hauled away and buried.
Yeah, it was so much better when there was a war in Europe every 10 years. Let's go back to that.
You can thank NATO and the USA's military for lack of war in Europe, the UN is a joke.
Ugh, my issue is AI is a pandas box, we already opened it. Now it’s an argument of regulate technology and banning people from doing certain things on their own devices like running foss LLMs, like if we do that we can also allow bans of end to end encryption
Yeah, but those pandas sure are cute.
But then they got into that damn box, and now we're doomed.
my issue is AI is a pandas box, we already opened it.
The big difference is that there is no "AI" box, it's never been opened, and nothing has happened except wasting energy and foolish money.
Upvoted for "Panda's box"...lmao!
It's Pandoras box.
AI doesn't even exist yet. We can't even stop a catastrophe we haven't created yet.
Here's the issue I have with your position... AI is such a generic term it's difficult to have a fulfilling conversation using it but in my field a form of AI like machine learning is going to eliminate an entire sector of manufacturing... Boutique precision machined components have been thought as an impenetrable wall against AI but it's basically the same lackluster defense used not long ago about Generative images couldn't produce hands properly... It's not a matter of if but when.
Imo, the catastrophe happens when a successful AI scales. Or perhaps rather how suddenly a successful AI model will bury the existing system into irrelevancy. Boeing and most aerospace manufacturers have a machinist union but none of that will protect against a future where people are no longer necessary.
I don't think it's wrong to have AI eliminate jobs but it shouldn't come without warning. I think it's rather forward looking to be monitoring ongoing AI projects and establish contingencies for folks who will become displaced by it's rapid spread.