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Simple. People desire to own what they pay for, and they prefer not having to hear their neighbors partying, arguing, fighting, fucking, etc.

Dang, Lemmy really is misanthrope central

Neither have water, so neither?

A lot of people in this thread are mistaking the map for the territory. Like yes, obviously neither the development on the right, or the left would actually happen in real life, because why are these people even on the island? What do they eat? What do they drink? Where do they work? The sole statement of the graphic is that dense developments have a reduced impact on nature compared to sparse developments. Discussing the logistics would exceed what can be conveyed by such a format.

Fires (i live in london)

We all know that soon enough, the center of the island will be filled with cheap appartement blocks, and all the beaches and access to water will be owned by rich people with huge houses.

Counterpoint: they didn't need to clear all the trees, or at the very least, they could have replaced them with more native trees once they were done building. I'm not gonna pretend that houses don't cause a ton of environmental destruction, but imo they really don't have to continue to be destructive long-term; they do it because people usually go with the lowest bidder.

There is so much possible between these. Both options suck.

Different families have different needs.

Why build up when we can build down to utilize geothermal. Under ground houses saves nature!

I could get behind this if I could continue yelling just for the fun of it and have a space for a decent workshop

my only gripe with apartments is that people are too fucking stupid to sort their garbage and recycling according to the giant fucking posters in the garbage room.

and strata vote manipulation to make idiotic changes that benefit nobody that actually lives there, while never fixing anything that breaks.

so many people in comments need fucking therapy. idolizing atomization and misanthropy and then wondering why the world has gone to shit. "fuck other people and their children" Andys wondering how fascism is on the rise and why people do mass shootings. it's you. the only difference is you haven't pulled the trigger yet. get help.

This thread is an object lesson in why the whole world hates Americans.

For those complaining about noise in apartments: in my experience apartment dwellers are quite considerate and when living in an apartment I never had any major noise problems.

Now that I live in a single home let me tell you about the noise of neighbours mowing their lawns, constant noisy renovations etc. and in general a lot more car noise.

Quite honestly, it was more quiet in the apartments that I lived before.

Edit: and besides, I think people are confusing apartments with the real cause: housing areas with low socio-economic status tend to be more noisy. Correlation is not causation and all that...

Density zoning is the source of the housing crisis.

People think it's market forces that have created the housing crisis, but it is exactly the opposite: government ha been artificially restricting supply for decades.

There are so many places where 100 units is a more profitable use of land than 10 units, but it's prevented by density zoning.

Only if the apartment has very strict noise and smoking rules that are actually enforced.