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[–] [email protected] 159 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 102 points 1 year ago (40 children)

Trying to claim the term “Web3” is a futile battle. It is already widely understood to mean crypto and blockchain. If I see a job posting that says the company is built on Web3, I know immediately that the job is built on scams and grifts without having to ask further questions. Web3 as a term is ruined already.

For this to work it must be a different term than Web3. Maybe “Web 3.0” is different enough?

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I suggest forking Web3 into at least three competing things

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just do what USB does and call it "Web 3 v2"

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

also Web 3.0 was already a thing (semantic web), cryptobros just stole the term.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantic_Web

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Which is pretty much what activitypub is a part of.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"Web x" is dumb marketing speak. It exists because people who use the phrase can't intelligently talk about the actual underlying technology.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

I think it's useful terminology, but only very generally and in hindsight. Web 1 is a pretty clear era in the 90s and early 2000s, characterized by simple static blogs and personal websites, and email. Everyone knew this would be big, but nobody figured out how, that was the dotcom bubble. Web 2 began with the rise of big tech companies like Google and Facebook in the late 2000s, it has been characterized by social media apps, centralized platforms hosting user created content, funded by targeted advertising and data mining. Web apps became possible and smartphones took over. Every product became a subscription service.

I think we're at the start of web 3, but it's hard to say what that is yet. The big tech companies are crumbling and there's increasing unrest at the old system of web 2. Fed up users are turning to platforms like this. There's a lot of demand for crypto nonsense like NFTs. AI is changing the way we do everything.

I hope that web 3 is the age of decentralization because that would be awesome, but it's impossible to predict the future.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Or perhaps Web 3.1. But seriously, I would call it the Federated Web.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Blockchain and crypto are both decentralized, which is exactly what Web3 is defined as. Just because they came before federated websites doesn't mean the definition is exclusive to them. I would call "Web3" ruined, rather I would say that ActivityPub is the first great implementation of it.

PS: The distinction between Web 3 and Web 3.0 is giving me some real USB 3.2 Gen 1 vibes.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Web3 usually means it's decentralized. So yes, in most cases it's cryptocurrencies

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 year ago (2 children)

but how do I give someone .0045 cents for no apparent reason??

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago (50 children)

Don't forget the 40 dollar transaction fee

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (4 children)

GNU Taler. Ah, question was rhetorical :)

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

I also think IPFS (non filecoin version) could prove useful in the future as well.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago

A post mentioning IPFS that hasn't been downvoted into the mantle? I'm impressed.

It seems that most people don't have any idea that it's not reliant upon blockchain.

Somebody asked the other day about hosting websites on cell phones. I mentioned that IPFS would be just about perfect for that and everyone got out their pitchforks.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What's IPFS in layman's terms? The Wikipedia is hard for me to follow lol

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

I don't know the details (checked it out once, before crypto integration), but it's like bittorrent. You seed your own files, people who download and keep the files also seed. I think I once tried out a prototype decentralized (crypto) ebay-like app, and all images were "hosted" on IPFS. (So, once the app downloaded the product image, it seeded it to other clients).

I believe all files are hashed, and something like DHT is used to lookup files by hash id.

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[–] ICastFist 47 points 1 year ago

Noooooooooo, you can't like things that can evade stupid and needless monetization!

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (15 children)

it's insulting to consider cryptocurrency or blockchain as any kind of next generation thing

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I hate the term Web3, the name itself feels like gaslighting. It tries to imply like it's the next step for the web. It's just grifting and is absolutely impractical lol.

Notice how Web3 blew up because of insane VC money, then suddenly dies what feels like overnight. They didn't care about decentralization, otherwise they'd actually invest in non Blockchain bullshit. But then they can't scam with crypto coins.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago

Look at me is federated and decentralized

I am the web3 now

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I call it web3.0++ its web3.0 after the concussion wore off.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Web 3.1, this time with realistic use cases!

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (20 children)

Don't forget about nfts there the future man they can't be replicated man where can you spend 100k and by the end of the week your investment is worh $3.50

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Where you spend 100k for a JPEG

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The JPEG isn’t even on the blockchain for the majority of NFTs. It’s just a URL to a JPEG on a server someone else owns. If they take down the server, sell it, it gets hacked, the url scheme changes, etc someone is now the proud owner of a broken link lol

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (29 children)

Its not a jpeg man its an nft it uses blockchain man it can't be replicated its totally the future now let me plug in 50 gpus I got to start mining

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would see that crypto and blockchain scam as more like the last breath of Web2, given the monetization thing

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

No. Web2 is about user generated content (as opposed to the static pages of Web1) - crapto stuff hardly fits the bill. Like it or not, it really does belong to Web3 - which is about decentralization.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Now that's a definition I can get behind.

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