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Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.

As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Maybe legislation that makes human life more important than profit?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It ALL hinges on making elections fair in the first place. Closed primaries and first past the post rules make banana republic democracies seem fair in comparison. Until those issues get solved, I only see the “adults in the room” deciding to boil the oceans for profit while codifying it into law more each year.

It’s hard not to be cynical.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You need two more things to make that work. First of all media needs to be taken away from the rich. Media is easily able to influence elections. The other part is election advertising. As long as you need millions to run an election, you need to work for the rich to get elected.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago

Absolutely! I never realized how powerful the media is until I read Chomsky in college.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago

We're long past the time for legislation, because those making the money make the rules. It's time to get to abolishing capitalism and building instead a society where there isn't a small group of people who get to dictate the rules so they can always exclude themselves from them.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Well shit now that the survey says it the oil industry is sure to collapse. In seriousness though I'm glad the general population is getting on board with this it does mean change is on the horizon. Having popular support will mean less pushback on direct action

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why would 30% be against this? What could you possibly argue to say environmental damage is okay?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Version 1:

  • The world is going to end real soon
  • they expect to be raptured away to Heaven
  • God put stuff on the earth for us to use up before the rapture

Version 2:

  • Somebody else is going to suffer because of the environmental damage
  • Hurting other people shows how masculine and powerful I am
  • I profit from the damage
  • Damage = good