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Reason for this meme is that some ubisoft titles are shipped with a broken version of ubisoft connect launcher. Installing these games is only possible by running the installer for the launcher again via protontricks.
~~linux~~ gaming without 3rd party launchers.
Funnily the first time I tried Linux on my desktop was because I wanted to play BF4 but the EA App refused to launch on Windows 10 even after restarting/reinstalling everything.
I slapped Pop_OS on a backup SSD and got it running through Lutris within the hour.
Origin was a fucking nightmare to use even on Windows, and honestly...the EA desktop app wasn't really an improvement.
Origin was better in literally every way, but it's predecessor, the EA Download Manager, was even better, as it wasn't an always-online DRM piece of shit. You logged in, it listed your games, it downloaded them, and games still used a CD key.
Though I'm still pissy, as I bought NFS Carbon and obtained it via EADM, but when they moved to Origin, existing games didn't transfer, and there was no way to grab games for archival. So EA owes me a fucking copy of Carbon, since I didn't have it installed when they sunset EADM.
Fuck you, EA. In every conceivable sense of the word and action.
Just slap the "Linux" onto any post and immediately get more upvotes on Lemmy.
Lemme try this
upvotes Linux meme
and kernel-level anticheat. cant forget that one.
That's a tough one. Clearly, everyone hates both kernel-level anticheat and cheaters. The level of hate depends.
Cheaters are a solved problem, in my opinion. It used to be that people hosted servers- moderating and managing their own communities. The industry went away from that in pursuit of cosmetics and control. There aren't cheaters on well managed community servers in Valve games, but cheaters run rampant in matchmaking in those same games.
Really? Ubisoft though? If there's any game studio I could do without, it would be Ubi. Because of their practices I haven't bought a game from them in years and years, and honestly it's not even been a challenge to pass them up.
i think you might be misunderstanding what '3rd party' means. if ubisoft is making you use an ubisoft launcher to run ubisoft games, that'd be first party. here's an article detailing what the terms mean with regards to game developers. a third party launcher would be like when you add a non-steam game to steam.
Mandatory first party launchers?
I dunno, I tend to think of the useless thing that comes up for a game I bought on Steam and run through Steam to be "third party"... Maybe that's a stretch, but whatever, it's just unwanted and unnecessary at that point
Can't play one of my favorite MMOs on Linux because it now strictly requires the launcher that doesn't work.
The game works! Before transitioning to a new launcher and strict laucher-only startup, it was fine. But now...yeah.
No way to extract what the launcher does and use it as launch options in whatever youre using to launch the game?
If you're talking about runescape, I've been using the fan made Bolt Launcher and it works great
Nah, Revelation Online. Requires VK Games launcher to start. But I'll see if your method works somehow, thanks!
What about Steam? Linux gaming would be a whole lot worse off without Proton
I could make another meme "Linux Gaming without Valve and Steam", but it would have another picture on it...
It's my observation that Valve has earned the trust of the linux gaming community and therefore is the one and only acceptable proprietary launcher.
and therefore is the one and only acceptable proprietary launcher.
Yep! But that's only until they decide to enshitify, which they (Valve) will, because they (the humans making the correct choices today) will sell or retire.
Steam is the first party launcher as far as most of us are concerned. When another company puts their game on Steam but makes it go through their own launcher first, that is third party in our perspective and is a source of a lot of games not working.
Steam is fine in my book. And I understand why it isn't open source with how much it's worth.
Steam has an effective monopoly on open, marketplace-style launchers. EGS is their only real competitor and everyone hates it. GOG is years behind the curve and Amazon's launcher barely exists. At this point in time, Steam is hardly considered third-party since it's so ubiquitous.
tbh i'm pretty happy installing everything through Lutris
it works great for gog games and pirated games
It always reminds me that genshin is playable on Linux with proton (at least in 4.2, and I didn't even tested wine). It's just the launcher that doesn't work. They are just so close yet so far
It is fully playable? I play on Linux with HoyoPlay and I have absolutely no issues?
Why do you want to play Ubisoft games?
Sometimes they're fun, sometimes friends play them and you want to join?
honestly just PC gaming in general without 3rd party launchers
Sometimes they make sense for managing mod-sets/different instances (i.e. Stellaris or most famously Minecraft.
well yeah obviously, 3rd party launchers that are optional to use because they serve a purpose. Forced launchers like uplay and origin are the issue. they serve no purpose and offer a worse experience for the user and are forced on your system. Back in my day when a piece of software came with something else that pops up on your screen and runs in the background bogging down your system and collecting data, we considered that a virus.
The majority of the issues I have with WoW on Linux are because of the battle.net launcher. If they added the game to Steam, I'm sure I wouldn't have any issues.
How to play Ubisoft games without the Ubisoft Launcher:
Step 1) If you're an EU citizen, sign this petition: https://eci.ec.europa.eu/045/public/#/screen/home
If you are not in the EU, you can check if there are any other initiatives for your country here: https://www.stopkillinggames.com/
Step 2) (Due to insurmountable pressure, which you definitely did your part in adding to, video games are now forced to have an end-of-life plan.
Step 3) Wait until the game you want to play without the Ubi Launcher hits its end-of-life
Step 4) Do whatever is necessary to get the game playable again, which the newly introduced law guarantees is possible
Step 5) Enjoy your game without the Ubi launcher
For me, the launchers are sometimes the only thing that worked while trying Linux the other day.
If you need help, feel free to ask here on lemmy. At least my home instance has more linux users than windows users, and there are many who are happy to help.
i'd be cool with launchers being made illegal. They do nothing anyway.
...except manage the game's environment, download and install local files and updates, validate those files to make sure they're not compromised, provide an API for service integration in games, manage middleware like Gamescope or Wine...
It would be like banning all loud and annoying freight trucks inside city limits, and then wondering why food doesn't show up in stores anymore.