Asklemmy

For what it's worth, I work in 911 dispatch, so I've heard pretty much every reason someone could call the police, some good, some not so good, and there's always weird exceptions or edge cases where a situation that I normally wouldn't personally think warrants police involvement can get tipped over the edge (regardless of whether I think they're needed or not, if someone calls asking for police, I'm dispatching them, if the cops want to ignore the call, that can be on them)

My general rule for fights/domestics, is I'll call for situations that are or look/sound like they're about to become physically violent, neighbors yelling at each other next door-not my problem. If I start hearing them throwing things around, I start hearing mention of weapons, they're suddenly out in the street, etc. then I'll call.

I'll also call when it's just a verbal argument in a situation where that sort of behavior is totally uncalled for, like an irate customer yelling and screaming in a store, manager is asking them to leave and they're refusing.

Or if I witness a crime where the victim is a person, small business, or public property.

Situations where a person is or might be in significant danger or distress.

Reckless drivers if they're really excessive, not your run of the mill bad driver or asshole speeding and running shop signs, you need to be a couple notches worse than that- swerving all over the road, or speeding to a ridiculous degree.

Certain road obstructions and other traffic hazards.

When in doubt, I say err on the side of calling. Take a deep breath, keep a level head, stick to the facts, and answer the dispatcher's questions, and please, for the love of God don't start your call off with anything like "well I guess it's not really an emergency but..." that's basically our "it didn't scan, so it must be free" and don't apologize repeatedly for calling, if you feel bad about tying up an emergency line, all of that apologizing just makes the call longer which means you're just tying up the line even more.

The situation is different from one area to another, but overall a lot of places have moved to a sort of central dispatch model, more or less everything is going to go through the 911 center and very little gets dispatched from your local police station. In a lot of places, even if you call the non emergency number there's a good chance it's coming to us, and if it does go to someone at the station there's a good chance they're going to transfer you to us, or just take the information and call us after you hang up. In most cases I'd prefer you just called 911 and cut out the middle man, especially if you don't know exactly where you are so I at least have a landline address or cellular location to work with. The station can handle administrative things, getting a copy of a report you already filed, answering general questions, lost & found, etc. but if you need a cop to do something, even if it's just give you a phone call, that's probably going to come through us.

In your situation, I probably would have called when someone was banging on your door. That kind of tells me that the situation was out of hand and was potentially even presenting a threat to yourself. You seem to understand that as well since you went for your gun. If there's a situation where you think you may need to defend yourself and you have the time to do so, you should probably be calling 911.

I probably also would have called the front desk about the yelling. Cops may not care about your noise complaints, but the hotel probably has their own noise rules, and if the guests are breaking them, management can have them trespassed, and the cops will care a bit more about that.

Final thoughts, since I'm somewhat on the inside, I have a pretty good handle on the overall attitude of the cops in my county. Overall, I trust them not to show up and shoot someone having a psych episode, or be too unreasonably racist, or otherwise do something that's going to end up on the news in a bad way. Certain officers/departments I trust more than others, and I'd be more or less willing to call about minor issues based on that. In a situation where I don't know the local cops I'd err more on the side of not calling. My overall guidance of "if your not sure, call" still applies through.

I might call the non-emergency line for things, like if my car was stolen or house broken into. I think the only time I'd call the emergency line is if I felt actively in danger.

Calling the police is a lot like firearm training, never call them on something you don't intend to kill.

I'd've called the front desk when they were screaming at each other in the room. The front desk handles this sort of thing more than you and would have a better feel as to whether (for example) these are regular customers, how the local cops react, whether this is a normal or irregular occurrence for the area, etc. If the front desk or the cops had then stopped by the room with a noise complaint, that may have interrupted the disagreement enough that it may not have escalated later on. If they didn't stop by with a noise complaint, I very likely would have done the standard 'banging on the wall to get them to shut up' thing, which may have had the same effect (I have trouble sleeping and this nose would've made me very irritable). I don't know if I'd've opened my hotel room door, but I'd've at least looked out the peephole to assess the situation - and I'd've double-checked the lock and chain on the door during the first argument.

If you're in the US, should probably avoid it like the plague tbh. They have the proven capacity to make any situation infinitely worse.

The police are typically just there to point guns, so I'd only call if I thought a gun was useful, which is extremely rare.

e: I'm answering from the USA

I'd call the cops on the noise alone. Its their job to decide whether to, and how to intervene. Of course, the police in my country aren't trigger happy morons, so that does change it a bit.

My city actually has surprisingly decent cops. They regularly train with the county social workers for conflict de-escalation and dealing with neurodivergent individuals. So I'm normally not too hesitant to call them. I've had to call them for various instances minor and otherwise and they have always conducted themselves very well. However if you go one town over the cops are known for being maladjusted shitbags that will use every opportunity they have to exert their power over someone. So if I'm in their jusrisdiction then I will never call the cops unless it is literally life or death. So it really depends on where I am.

I never call the cops, ever.

I was once calling the police because there was a guy screaming loudly in front of my apartment building.

He was not threatening, just really confused, was obviously looking for his home, I had the impression he was autistic or on some kind of spectrum and it was below -5C - cold enough that it's really dangerous to fall asleep outside.

I called the police because I thought he just needed help and someone to look after him to take him home.

Yes, I do trust police in my country.

I might call the front desk early on and say im thinking of calling the police.

If I need to file a police report for the place that I am working I'll call the non emergency line.

Other than that, I don't call the police. I'm not trying to make any situation worse than it already is.

Ask yourself if you'd be ok with someone dying in the situation, because that's the only thing cops are good for

I call when i hear gunshots.

Well, plenty of reactions already.

So, I had a noisy neighbor. I called the cops. They come over, come into my home. Now I had all these tiny threads hanging down in my living room door, not sure what it's called. Dude officer gets all tangled up with his badge and shoulder things. I totally kept my straight face but his dudette partner couldn't keep hers. 😭

But ya, in the US I'd definitely be careful based on what area you're in. And also don't be afraid to read up on law and know what's what. I imagine there's good areas too.

but I don't keep them loaded or accessible. by the time I had something ready,

Heads up, you've just found a huge flaw in your security. You should have something loaded and accessible, especially somewhere like a strange roadside motel in the US. If you have kids that presents an extra challenge, because of course you have to keep it away from them, and that means on your person (not off body carry, on body, good holster preferably concealed, or with active retention) or in a quick access safe (which is fairly unrealistic in a motel).

If you needed it in that moment (and thankfully you ended up not needing it of course), you did not have it in that moment. You admittedly didn't "have" it until the moment passed, which had there been a deadly threat or threat of great bodily injury (the definition of "need gun"), you would have been unprepared for it and perhaps fallen victim, or been unable to help protect the victim.

If you want specific advice relating to the topic of carrying/self defense I'd be happy to answer any questions I can. I'm not an expert, but I'm not a novice either, if you're familiar with Elder Scrolls skill levels let's call me a Journeyman lol. I just want people to stay safe and be prepared, god forbid you ever need it but if you do you want to be ready (and safe, of course).

Absolutely fucking never

Whatever you find as you're tolerance, cut it in half, because when you do finally decide that it's something worth calling the police over their multipliers by about negative 0.5 whether they're going to decide to show up while it's happening.

I'm surprised you didn't knock on their door yourself and say "hey, me and the other neighbors are concerned".

I'm also sure a motel has terms and conditions as well as faculty of its own. Calling someone wouldn't have been unforgiven.

I have a slightly different perspective/experience with police. I might not see their justification as perfect given they're appointed on a statehood basis and I don't see the state's authority as binding, but all my experiences with them have been somehow positive, more positive than I can say my experiences with civilians are, especially those who try to backseat drive how order in the world works. If I have a threshold like is asked, it's the time I called them to tell them a park faucet was broken and leaking, the kind people might use for a hose, and people were livid at me the next day when the faucet was barricaded with "out of order" barriers, like they'd rather massively waste a resource than give up an asset.

Eh, depends on where I am. At a hotel, probably not until things seemed to be moving into threats. In your situation, I would have called the desk first after a few minutes of sustained noise, and only gone for cops if that failed.

At home, I know most of the neighbors well enough to be able to tell > what's going on and why, so I'm slower to call when I'm sure nothing is going to happen. If it's someone not from the neighborhood, or is unfamiliar, I'll call when things get loud enough to hear it over fans and such. Then again, I know the local cops too, so I'm confident in their unwillingness to jump to violence themselves. Smallish town, smallish department, and the people in charge aren't batshit about the whole "warrior" bullshit.

When I'm pet sitting for a friend over in the city, idgaf, I'll call as soon as it gets loud enough to notice, and doesn't stop in a minute or so. Don't know the people, don't know the cops, but I've got an obligation to my friends to keep things as safe as possible.

But yeah, if there's a kid involved, you call sooner rather than later, same once things start getting broken.