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I've never known so many shutdowns inside 2 weeks as the last two have been. Even websites pirating manga were shut down. What happened? What's with this massive legal wave of shutdowns, and why now?

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[–] [email protected] 140 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Because streaming services are enshittifying and too many people are sailing the seas as a result. Can’t let that happen.

[–] [email protected] 117 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

PerogiBoi here probably has it right. I remember during the heyday of Piracy in the early 2000's strings of sites coming down, Comcast getting busted for illegally using Sandvine to throttle or even outright block bittorrent traffic, Limewire being sued for more money than existed in the entire monetary system of the planet at the time, and corruptly buying out the courts of a foreign country so we could put The Pirate Bay admins in prison.

When people start putting on their piracy hats, they bring out the big legal guns.

EDIT: I will literally never get over Limewire being sued for more money than existed. It proved, without a shadow of a doubt, in my mind, exactly how bullshit the fines for individual copyright violations are. If piracy resulted in more money than exists... you can't prove to me that that is a lost sale. Because there literally was never enough money to have afforded the purchases to begin with.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Huh, TIL.

Regarding your edit, that amount wasn't the cumulated cost of whatever Limewire were distributing, that would be idiotic indeed; rather the RIAA tried to call for a ruling that somehow those guys were causing $150,000 in damages - per instance. Now the article unfortunately doesn't state how they possibly tried to justify that number, and I can't be bothered to research that myself. Another thing that would interest me is how the plaintiff expected them to pay with almost every dollar on Earth.

So while I don't think this had anything to do with "lost sales", I do agree with the possible fines and damage calculations not being fit for any sort of realistic purpose at all.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

If i remember correctly the justification was pretty much "trust me, bro".

[–] [email protected] 61 points 2 months ago

[In 2024] More than 80% of global online piracy can be attributed to illegal streaming services.

- https://dataprot.net/statistics/piracy-statistics/

I think this is the main reason. Pirate streaming services are now directly competing with Netflix, Disney+, and other streaming platforms (aka the media industrial complex, or MIC), and they offer more content for a more affordable price (or for free). Pirate streaming is also very accessible to a mainstream audience, who are already used to the concept. So, the MIC regards them as the biggest threat preventing them from jacking up prices even more, because people will naturally move to a more afforable option, if one exists.

So the main focus of the MIC is on killing off pirate streaming right now. Usenet and torrents have proven to be more robust piracy options but they also have a higher barrier to entry for mainstream audiences, so are always going to be more niche than streaming. But no doubt they are still tring to kill off usenet and torrent piracy - it's just a lower threat to corporate profits, so wont get as much attention.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 months ago

Interest rates are up. The free money tap got turned off so now every normal citizen is gonna get the broomstick up the ass to make funny big number go up.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 months ago

Piracy is up because crapitalism is also up.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago

Desperation and hunger for control. The streaming model - as well as digital stores - are based on controlling media; companies can dictate what products are sold, when, to who. At any point they can pull them away effortlessly, edit, raise or lower prices. The ongoing war against piracy begins first as a war against physical media and any kind of independence the customer might have when picking their products.

Now, aside from that control, the biggest corporation in the planet have also centralized their offers and distributing systems. The latest wave against anime & manga is most likely caused by the buyout of both Crunchyroll and Funimation by Sony, and the other big names in the game have also been solidifying themselves in major buyouts, except the profits aren't coming. They need to justify their expenses, maintain their control, and make an example, so the last isles of independence must be attacked.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago

My first pirate foray came in 5 1/4" floppy disk format and all I can say it that the high seas have always had heavy casualties. During the adoption of streaming services, the waters calmed for a bit. Now that those services have enshittified, pirate providers have seen a rise in demand which in turn has heated the battles once more.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

It may just be coincidental. Chasing hosters and legal battles takes time.

Random instances can group, that's soll random.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Fucking ACE

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

The spooks will do shutdowns in waves so they can destroy the files before more copies pop up

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Shortest answer: Agenda2030

You won't even recognize the internet in a few years

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Is there actually an Agenda2030 or is it just late stage enshittification?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I thought agenda 2030 was the un's 2030 sustainability plan, apparently not.

edit: apparently yes, most criticism of the 2030 sustainability plan I saw came from conspiracy theorists (eg: the "ADN" party in portugal), but that's the only thing that came up when I looked up "agenda 2030"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Sounds sus.