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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I once got a tip prompt on one of those self service kiosks that defaulted to 15%, had options for 20%, and 25%, and there wasn't a button for no tip.

To not leave a tip, I had to hit Custom, and type in 0.00. They obviously wanted to make leaving no tip as hard as possible without removing it altogether.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

It was at some chicken place at a local mall.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is the way most of the ones around me work. It's extra frustrating because as soon as you start pressing extra buttons the cashier knows you are not giving a tip. I tip generously at dine in restaurants but tipping for pickup is ridiculous.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I remember in 2021, Wall Street Journal and Readers Digest started pushing the idea that now that covid exists, everybody needs to be tipped unless they legally can't be (like US mail carriers). I worked in customer service until almost two years ago and I find the idea of having to tip everybody everywhere to be ridiculous. I put their stuff in a bag and handed it to them. Why should I have been entitled to having to guilt people into giving me extra money for doing my job?

https://www.rd.com/article/how-much-to-tip/

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Since it's self-service, I'll just tip myself by keeping the money lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah my many years as a cashier makes my cashiering efforts VERY expensive. Due to my experience, my effort is worth atleast the price of that Vita Coco!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Paying $15 for that wrap is the real crime. Why do you shop there?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

An explanation, but not an excuse.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

those prices turn nice people into hijackers

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Hijacking is soo 80's. Gotta up your game.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is a 3% tax added specifically to cover extra pay for Airport Workers. Why are you being asked to tip for a self service kiosk.

I hate this. If I don’t tip I’m an asshole. If I tip I let companies pay their workers like garbage.

Dear companies. Pay your employees more. Frankly I’d be less insulted if they just rose the price by 20% then asking me to tip. IMHO if they employers did this they would just pocket the difference.

And I’m guessing bus boys are paid even less than the server.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

You're not a asshole if you don't tip, it's not your fault if companies don't treat their employees right

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do I get the tip in this instance?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Is this at the Newark airport? I flew through there a couple weeks ago and think I went to this same checkout and was equally annoyed.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Don’t tip if you’re standing up!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Haha I guess I have a new personal motto

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

I'll have to remember that!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

FYI - the airport workers don't care if you put $0 for the tip. In fact, this terminal has a very convenient "No Tip" button right there, which is better than the ones which require you to hit Custom then select "$0".

In fact, I've yet to find a single person who has objected to me putting $0 in one of these terminals. I've even asked when they are standing right in front of me, Do You Get This Tip? And in all cases, they've said no.

So it's a pure money grab by the management. So feel good about putting in a $0!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Just steal at that point

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We need some common sense regulations on tips and hidden fees. They need to be limited in some way at this point and, preferably just banned altogether.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

For a start, regulations that force any system with 'quick tip' buttons of 15/20/etc % HAVE to have a No Tip option as well. Can't force your customers to type out 0.00.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How about: The full price (including all unavoidable fees, etc.) must be listed and offered to the customer at all times?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It would also be nice to have prices listed including tax, which I believe is how it’s done in the EU.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

This is ridiculous ...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't understanding tipping up front. Before you've received your food...

Also feels like a threat asking for a tip immediately... Like, if you don't tip or they don't like the amount, the person making it is going to deliberately fuck with the food.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

wow nice, where is that so I can avoid it like the black plague? that's ~$6 food anywhere else.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

15$ for a chicken ceasar wrap? I get chipotle chicken wraps just like that, in the same containers, for almost 10$ less at 711. In Canada.

Definitely an airport.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

$25 for a god damn wrap and water?? Are you serious? I can go to a Mexican restaurant and get chips & salsa and Fajitas for 2 and a Coke for for cheaper!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Whata... Who's is the tipping supposed to go to??

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Shareholders

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

This is seemingly an American only phenomenon. No one likes tipping, but if you patronize an establishment that abuses its staff with unlivable wages, you're condoning bad business. At least help the server out if they put in the effort. At a self checkout though??? foh

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

More like take this tip and suck it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Sugondese tips

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What happens if you put a negative number in the other box? Does it refund your card for that amount?

If it worked, IANAL, but they did ask how much you wanted to tip and willingly gave you money...seems like a solid defense...any lawyers wanna chime in?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Enter tip amount:

DROP TABLE *;

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

You should have bought something less healthy so you wouldn't have to pay the 3% fee

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Agreed. I had more empathy for tipping workers at self-service / carryout settings during the height of the pandemic (which is not over BTW). Now... Given that management has programmed these registers I find myself grudgingly tipping since I have to wonder if management has started paying them even more inadequately in anticipation of tipping.

I have somewhat magically decided I tip 10% at these things as there is no real guidance anymore. 20% for table service. Delivery... 15-20%?

Of course someone will come along saying to tip 0% to hold the line and force fair wages. I have some understanding of that argument too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel like tipping when you're the one doing the checkout means not charging yourself for something? Not really sure how else to view that.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel like this is just a lazy one system design for all. Its like subway's question when paying with credit card. I'm not tipping them to make a sandwich, just charge more for the sandwich.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I suspect you're correct. It's probably a default part of the POS system's checkout screens, and the manager is too technologically illiterate to customize it, or too lazy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Nah the set up likely left this in even if it is optional precisely to socially pressure consumers into tipping.

Sure some might just not know any better, but the fact they are so ubiquitous in situations where tipping isn't expected broadly reeks of deliberate malfeasance.

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