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Hi everyone,

We launched the Proton family plan over a year ago. Since then, many of you have asked for a more affordable option. Today, we are excited to introduce Proton Duo, our new plan designed to make online privacy more accessible.

You might consider safeguarding online privacy a personal duty, but what about your loved ones? If your partner still depends on Big Tech for their emails, documents, or photos, their sensitive information remains at risk.

For a limited time only, we are offering Proton Duo for $14.99/month with a one-year plan: that’s $60 in annual savings. This is a forever discount, so if you sign up for the promotion, you’ll keep this price forever.

Proton Duo includes:

  • 2 users with separate logins
  • 1 TB of storage to share + 15 GB of bonus storage every year
  • Full access to Proton Mail, Proton Drive, Proton Calendar, Proton Pass, and Proton VPN
  • Everything included in Proton Unlimited ($60 yearly savings compared to two separate subscriptions).

How to get started

  • Sign up for Proton Duo or upgrade your existing plan.
  • If your family member doesn't already have a Proton account, they can create one for free.
  • Invite your family member to your Proton Duo plan.

Use our Easy Switch tool to move your emails, calendars, and contacts from other providers to Proton in just a few clicks. Whether you're already using Proton or new to our community, Proton Duo makes it easier than ever to protect what matters most.

→ Learn more about Proton Duo: https://proton.me/blog/proton-duo

At Proton, we're on a mission to improve everyone's privacy on the internet. By choosing Proton, you're taking a stand for privacy—not just for yourself but also for your loved ones.

We'd love to hear your thoughts!

The Proton Team

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[–] [email protected] 128 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)
  • 19.99/month for 1 month
  • 14.99/month for a year (179.88 total)
  • 11.99/month for 2 years (287.76 total)
[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 months ago

You dropped your crown, king 👑

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I pay for proton mail and I’m so sick of every company trying to do this stupid fucking pricing plan. I don’t understand why they can charge 19.99 for the same service BUT if I pay upfront for an entire year or two, you get a discount. It’s not a limited fucking supply, my guys!

No thanks, chief. There are way too many things going on in this life to hand you that amount of money upfront. It just makes me look at those ridiculous prices and wonder why I just cant give you fucking 11.99 a month!

What. The. Fuck.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago

Money now is worth more than the same amount of money later. There'd rather get paid up front. Plus it locks you in rather than risking you dropping off after a couple of months

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago (3 children)

It's to do with having a consistent income for them. Taking a hit to monthly costs is potentially worth it if you can guarantee the income for a period of time. It's the same reason why regular savings accounts have higher interests than a standard account.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

It also lowers the number of transaction they have to do, which lowers costs a little.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

I guess I’m just crazy for thinking lower prices = more subscriptions.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

As an extra to this people might go with the longer term to lock get the deal then after a period that's so long one of two things happens.

  1. the service us great and they are used to using it and keep it going
  2. the service isn't so good and they either renew since they forgot or they cancel and the business got more income that they may not have otherwise got.
[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Welcome to literally everything? It's called volume-based discount. Just like if you buy a box of cookies from the grocery store, you'll pay a fuckton more than if you buy a pallet of cookies from the exact same company.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

is the 2 year offer gone? I don't see it

[–] [email protected] 73 points 2 months ago (4 children)

The main thing keeping my partner from leaving Big Tech services is that Proton Calendar and other basic functionality sucks balls. The pricing plan is great but for the love of God, fix the basics and stop with all the new nonsense like AI and crypto.

[–] prwnr 35 points 2 months ago (5 children)

yeah, same thing here. like, how can I explain my wife that is less technical than me, that "hey, this Proton service is great for privacy and all, but you won't have Calendar widgets and notifications when I add stuff to our shared calendars", and she will be like "why?" and I will be doomed. I can accept those things, cause I care more about privacy, but she doesn't and she prefers functionality over that

[–] MajorHavoc 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yep.

won't have Calendar notifications when I add stuff to our shared calendars

Is why I left the wider Proton ecosystem. I want to come back, but I'm waiting to hear that it's fixed.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

That sounds like me and my wife. She's not going to give up her calendar, photos, etc. She's always asking me, so what keyboard do you use? What calendar do you use? What xyz do you use? And I'm always saying... yeah, you don't want to go there. Just use what you want.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

This is one of the few things keeping me from getting a family plan and switching everyone over.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

100% this. So often prioritizing privacy means giving up a thousand little creature comforts

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

and she will be like "why?" and I will be doomed.

Exactly the same reason here. DOOMED.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Man, I wished they focused on Drive and Calendar. Still no Linux client for Drive :/

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I really wish they'd support WebDAV sync or something for drive, then they wouldn't have to build a client. Their Linux support is always really poor IMO and it's frustrating. You'd think a privacy oriented company would support the most privacy conscious os

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

I watched an interview with the CEO on the Linux Tech Channel I believe (the french linux guy) and the problem is as usual, that the Linux userbase is too small. Proton, being a fully venture capitalist free company, meaning funded by the users (which is great), has to implement what the majority of users want and those are unfortunately IOS, Android, Windows, and a bit of MacOS. Linux is very far behind those, so comparing the size of the user base vs the amount of features, I'd say Proton isn't doing too badly.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

@proton_lynx @asdfasdfasdf This is the biggest reason why I cannot commit to Proton 💯

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yeah I’ve been kinda surprised and annoyed at the speed with which Proton has gone from “we’re getting our shit together” to “here is a decent professional product” to “let’s add some bullshit that no one is asking for!”

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

The core stuff is getting better. Calendar, in particular.

AI/crypto is still dumb.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This is great, I haven’t checked yet but I assume we can convert a family plan with only two users to a duo plan?1

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago

In the past I've been able to switch around no problem and it automatically credits you for any time left on that plan.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes, as long as you''re not above the Duo plan limitations (e.g storage or custom domains)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I’m not seeing the option in the UI to switch plans, I only have one custom domain and am well under the storage limits. I put in a help request since it seems like this may be just a me thing. Thanks!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

If you click the switch plan link in the blog post it'll let you change. That's what I had to do.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This is going to be great for so many partners!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (3 children)

For my use case of simply wanting to have myself and my wife on a custom domain email, this is still unreasonably expensive. I don't care about the other offered services as I have everything else that I need running on my own server but email is safer to run off premises.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like you just need two "Mail Plus" accounts. You get 1 custom domain per account and 10 email addresses per user.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

That would work if they wanted separate domains. I don't think they could share it without the family plan or this new plan. Hoping for that exact solution myself for a better price as I have everything else they offer covered

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I currently do this with mailbox .org, I spend 4 euros a month for 2 accounts (3+1). This allows us to use the same domain, share storage and sync calendars. Mailbox also stacks up pretty well against proton in security and privacy just doesn't have a free plan and some of the little extras. It also supports catchall and full filtering if you really wanted to save the extra euro and use one account.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Namecheap is 1.36$/mo for one user and 3.43$/more for three.

They provide a decent service and it's very no frills. Great for those that prefer to use email/calendar clients.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

I was looking at getting away from google but just me and my sister it was expensive. This could be good.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Still very expensive. And the marketing of one year subscription , two years bla is even worst and makes feel untrust . Companies still dont get it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The problem is they think they’re selling you all their services, but in practice you’re probably using 2-3 of them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Indeed, I only use Mail and VPN but still have to pay for all of them. I did consider just paying for Mail and getting VPN from Mullvad but then I only get 10 SimpleLogin emails which is nowhere near enough

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Does proton VPN... support port forwarding

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

You had my curiosity. Now you have my attention

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Yes, but the port changes every time you connect.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

PIA does the same thing so I'm used to it

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

And now my girlfriend also has Proton :)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Literally have been warring with myself internally for like 2 months on if it was worth it to rope my parents in to the family plan to make it worth it for my wife and I, this is perfect!

The 500g wasn't quite enough storage for both of us using my account, 1TB will be perfect

Split password managers is going to be a lot better than using my account with different categories or vaults or whatever they call them, plus we can still share the ones we want to share anyway

Really should get into the habit of using their calendar so I can whine with everyone else about how it sucks, I guess

Don't love more services doing the "pay us for longer time and get a discount" but it's been worth it for 6 months do fuck it, let's try the year out

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