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Mozilla adds stupid AI stuff with horrible T&C (lemdro.id)

submitted 4 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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PSA (?): just got this popup in Firefox when i was on an amazon product page. looked into it a bit because it seemed weird and it turns out if you click the big "yes, try it" button, you agree to mandatory binding arbitration with Fakespot and you waive your right to bring a class action lawsuit against them. this is awesome thank you so much mozilla very cool

https://queer.party/@m04/112872517189786676

So, Mozilla adds an AI review features for products you view using Firefox. Other than being very useless, it's T&C are as anti-consumer as it possibly can be. It's like mozilla saying directly "we don't care about your privacy".

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (4 children)

i did not get a pop up on a amazon page maybe a us only thing idk but its ironic how firefox advertises Privacy related feature

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I was happy when they used an entirely on-device AI to generate alt text for photos, but this is just ridiculous. They quite literally already have an extension that does the exact same thing this new "feature" offers.

Firefox was supposed to be a less bloated than chrome, but all they've done now is continued to add more and more to the browser that nobody actually asked for.

Give me bug fixes, UX and performance improvements, not entire sidebar popups for review checking that only works on 3 stores on the entire internet.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Oh they're finally integrating fake spot? That's awesome, actually! Pretty cool plugin, that!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Sure, Mozilla customer representative #37.

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[–] kn0wmad1c 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

IANAL, but I don't think T&Cs are really legally binding and can be easily fought against in court.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago

While true, it requires time and money to get a case before the court. Which most people don't have. If your rights require you to invest your time and money against a much larger adversarial party in court, then it's not your rights that are being protected in the first place. Right now Big Tech is more worried about us exercising our rights instead of being afraid of trampling on them in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (6 children)

I'm not opposed to the tool itself but they can fuck off with pushing it onto us. If I want to see the newest Firefox features I'll go the main site and find them.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I know ... But people actually literally want this.

Maybe FF is what we install for normies while we use forks for other flavours.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

But people actually literally want this.

No-one except advertisers want this.

Most people simply do not care at all.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Why do advertisers want you to have tools that help you detect covert advertising?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

How does "waiving your right to a lawsuit" hidden in a terms and conditions apply? I bet it doesn't

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm starting to worry about Mozilla. Firefox is still the best browser, and I've used it for many years... but there are more and more anti-features popping up that require a few settings to be changed. No one thing is a big deal, but I'm starting to feel the same way about Firefox as I did about Windows before I stopped using it: like it's just trying to trick me into doing something I don't want to do rather than aiming to be a good product.

I'm thinking specifically about the address bar getting 'search suggestions' from Google by default; and the special 'ad effectiveness tracking' that is turned on by default to help Facebook. Privacy should always be the default setting. We shouldn't have to keep up-to-date with the latest features and settings just so that we know what to disable!