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Red Hat stops all upstream and downstream work on desktop Bluetooth, multimedia applications (namely totem, rhythmbox and sound-juicer) and libfprint/fprintd (hadess.net)

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[–] [email protected] 113 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What do you get when you merge a company with IBM?

IBM.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

You get what you fuckin deserve!

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Annoying commercials about "the cloud" and some robot they built 30 years ago.

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 1 year ago (4 children)

All these corporations looking to kill off their own relevance. They all in the same death cult or something?

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago

Never forget, in a capitalist system, every firm will always eventually try to get as many people as possible, to pay as much as possible, for as little as possible.

Enshitification

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They all in the same death cult or something?

Yeah, capitalism it seems like.

I guess asking for sustainable business practices is too much to ask for from the system. "Sufficient" money is never good enough. Gotta try to get all the money, even if it means burning down everything one holds dear.

Hell, the system is literally willing to burn down the whole world in pursuit of more. The more you think about it, the more senseless it all becomes.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

It's called enshittification - Cory Doctorow invented the term.

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hope that backfire on IBM.

[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yes, it will but so slowly and further down the road, nobody at IBM will see the connection. When Fedora (or desktop Linux in general) will be slightly less appealing to people who in 10 years will become the decision makers at IT departments, it'll weaken the position of Linux and in turn the commercial support providers.

Guess, everyone who does not yet own a Steam Deck needs to get one because Valve seems to be the biggest commercial proponent of consumer GNU/Linux.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 year ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

this is bad

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Thanks for linking the actual article!

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[–] aport 62 points 1 year ago

Farewell, Red Hat. Thanks for all your good work throughout the years. Sucks you sold out to IBM

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)

These kind of changes are absolutely infuriating, and what's even worse, is that there's nothing we can do about it

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

and what’s even worse, is that there’s nothing we can do about it

Look I know it's much easier said than done, but you can choose to walk away from IBM and Red Hat over this. If these changes start to lose money, they'll respond. Otherwise they'll see how much abuse their customers are willing to put up with and start doubling down.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you mean that Fedora users should question if they want to keep using this distro? Because I do use Fedora, and I understand I'm "beta-testing" an enterprise product, but yeah, for me this changes my "relationship" with Red Hat. Or what do you mean?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I just don't want folks thinking they're trapped, because that's when a vendor will really start putting the screws to you.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Don't use Fedora or it's ilk for starters.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, Fedora and Gnome were embraced and extended by IBM.

You know what's next now.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep, Ubuntu will fork all of these, then trash them, introduce their alternatives, then drop support in 5 years.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Introducing unity 2

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Welp.. Gnome will lost many of their contributor/maintainer.. Well, at least KDE folks is backed by Novell(SUSE) and XFCE is purely maintained by community already. It seems Linux desktop is still safe. lol

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

SUSE was an independent company before, during, and after its 5 years under Novell. That's a weird attribution to Novell when SUSE has always been the contributing company to Linux.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Oh, sorry.. I thought they are one from the start.. thx for correcting me.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

But this was it's year!

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Corpo shills were never on the team pleb... just so happened it was good for them to do something that benefited FOSS. Now that is over, it seems.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

power-profiles-daemon is now archived? Dammit, that was a big one for Fedora.

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[–] LeFantome 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am a little concerned to step in front of the hate machine here but this feels like a continued move away from app dev to more infrastructural stuff as previously announced by them. If so, I am all for it as not everybody is going to use Rhythmbox or LibreOffice but we can all use HDR and other core tech that Red Hat will develop instead. They are one of the few Linux companies that can fund these large, technical projects. Having them working on apps feels like a waste of their engineering potential.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But if they are moving towards infrastructure I doubt HDR will be on their radar - or any desktop related technology for that matter

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well, The Enterprise Linux war is just getting better and better!

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

why did you link to a kbin view of another post right here on [email protected] ?

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[–] choroalp 10 points 1 year ago

There is no Way this is going to improve anything Red Hat's side

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Let's hope the community will pick these up or some of the distro's like Ubuntu, Mint etc

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can someone tell me what this means for fedora?

[–] LeFantome 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Very little I suspect. These specific packages may evolve less quickly but will still be available. None of them were Fedora specific.

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